<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>The rules as written appear slightly contradictory on this. From the 2013 IKAC Adult Rules (<a href="http://www.scores-sca.org/public/scores_rules.php?R=10&Shoot=157">http://www.scores-sca.org/public/scores_rules.php?R=10&Shoot=157</a>)<br>
"Period style recurves and longbows of any material are allowed. Modern style recurves or longbows with full or partial center cut risers are not allowed."<br><br></div>But later in the same section of the rules it also states<br>
"Period style bows are defined as: Any style of bow that can be
documented as used in pre 1600 archery, from Stone age bows to English
longbows. Construction materials should be mainly those that were used
in period for the making of that style of bow. Modern materials such as
synthetic glues, finishes, fibers (strings) or artificial sinew are
allowed as long as their use does not give an unfair advantage in
performance over period materials. Fiberglass may be used as a
substitute for horn and or sinew in the construction of period style
recurve bows such as Arab, Turkish, Mongol, etc., but no modern features
such as full or partial center cut handles are allowed. This last is
important. Many modern longbows have some center-cut on their handle
part (riser in a recurve). If that is the case, the bow is not allowed
in the Period division. A protuding shelf resulting from layers of
leather on the handle is allowed, however. The bow must have the
appearance of a period laminate bow."<br><br></div>This implies to me that if the limbs of the bow are wholly fiberglass, even if wrapped in leather or similar, it can't be used in the Period Division. However a horsebow that is a laminate of wood and fiberglass is acceptable in the Period Division, as long as it doesn't look modern.<br>
<br></div>Asbiorn<br><br><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 May 2013 11:26, Ld. Cian Rhys Gravenor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:metaldog00@hotmail.com" target="_blank">metaldog00@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>It was my understanding of the IKAC rules what the bow is made of doesn't matter so long as the bow has no center cut in it. I am unable to confirm that due to the fact I can't seem to get to the IKAC rules for some reason. I don't suppose you could post the relevant portion of those rules, could you?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cian<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On May 30, 2013, at 9:12 AM, "Doug Copley" <<a href="mailto:doug.copley@gmail.com" target="_blank">doug.copley@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">This question was in regards to Period Shooting and Scoring for IKAC and Royal Rounds and for Period shoots. For open shoots I would allow them no problem. I also tell people that I allow carbon and aluminum arrows to be shot, just not to be scored or to compete for a title.<div>
<br></div><div>Vincenti</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Erwin Simmons <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ESIMMONS001@hot.rr.com" target="_blank">ESIMMONS001@hot.rr.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Are you asking for "period" shoots or
for all shoots? For regular shoots most bows are allowed as long
as they have no stabilizers and or sighting devices. I would not
allow any of the really newer bow with the magnesium risers etc.
I have seen modern longbows, ie. laminated wood and fiberglass
limbs allowed for "period" shooting.<br>
A period Magyar or Mongol horsebow , due to its laminated layered
construction would have<br>
a distinct advantage over a standard longbow, the longbow being a
self bow. The horsebow was fatster and had better cast. So for
me I would allow it. I am not currently an archery marshal in
Ansteorra, however I was Lieutenant General of archers for the
Principality of Drachenwald and I allowed the horsebows.
Cosmetically they look more period also than some bows being shot.<br>
That's my take on the question.<br>
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Ld Eric Bentbow<br>
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On 5/30/2013 7:30 AM, Doug Copley wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">This brings up a good question: Modern Horse Bows.
Wooden riser, no cut out arrow rest, limbs are covered with
leather, BUT the limbs are fiberglass. Are they allowed?
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<div>I have not been allowing them because with the limbs being
fiberglass they are gaining an unfair advantage over a longbow
made of wood. a 50# fiberglass bow will shoot fast than a 50#
wood limb bow.</div>
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<div>So how is this handled in other kingdoms? I would prefer
that we move together and try to get the rules so that they
are the same.</div>
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<div>Vincenti</div>
<div>Ansteorra</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Chuck
Kaun <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jack_a_lope31@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jack_a_lope31@hotmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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OK,<br>
<br>
I believe its the symbol that you want, who really cares how
or where you wear it? Too hot? Tabard is out. Sash would
be hot too. Dont wear a belt? Tie it around your arm. You
are shooting too and it would be in your way? Tie it around
your leg. Wear a dress or a tunic? Make a cool headband
that goes around your hat. Dont wear a hat? Wear it around
your noggin, congratulations you are now a pirate. Dont
want that? OK....obviously you didnt want to wear
one...moving on.<br>
<br>
Simply put there are many many ways to wear this thing, you
have 5 parts of your body to attach it to aside from your
torso that doesnt involve a lot of cloth making you overheat
or overtly modifying your persona. Find one and put it
there.<br>
<br>
Now...to make it obvious...Black with a big ole yellow
arrowhead works quite well if you are wearing light colors.
wearing darks? Yellow with a big ole black arrowhead on
it. Just dont wear it to court and the heralds wont even
ask what the heck that thing is.<br>
<br>
The point of all of this? a plain black or yellow scarf
with a big ole arrowhead of the opposite color on it. Easy
to make, goes darn near anywhere you need it to. Tie it to
your bow when its time to leave so you dont lose it.<br>
<br>
Simple, easy to make, inexpensive<br>
<br>
Enjoy,<br>
<br>
Karl Thorgeirsson<br>
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> To: <a href="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org" target="_blank">ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Marshal Sash Idea<br>
><br>
> Belt flags do not always work since many people do not
wear a belt. All<br>
> of the options have some problems with them. Some
people want them some<br>
> do not. Each of the options can either be hot or lost
or forgotten. So<br>
> the overall idea may or may not be a good work, but I
still see no<br>
> reason not to try it:-)<br>
><br>
> I do see it being more beneficial at a LARGE event than
at a small one.<br>
> At a small one, everyone knows everyone and if anyone
walks up that is<br>
> not known, everyone knows it and should immediately
step in to help<br>
> out.<br>
><br>
> On the larger ones, It could be a good idea to have a
sash or something<br>
> that is visible from a distance so that others can
point you out to<br>
> people. Something like this would be good at Gulf Wars
or maybe a Grand<br>
> Assembly of Archers, which we are hoping to have again
next year!<br>
><br>
> Vincenti<br>
g<br>
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