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<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Thanks,
Crandall. Your usual slightly sarcastic take on things has woken me
up.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Back into the
bag go the things I am trained to use. This bag is my personal
property. Nothing within it belongs to the "Chirurgeon's Offfice",
whatever that is. Personally, I hope it's the outhouse, so we can all go
there when we have a need instead of 'holding it' for an entire
List!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>My training,
every second of it, is also my own. It was paid for by me or some generous
friend who thought I'd be happy to receive it. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Worry not,
Ansteorra. I don't give a rip What you call me; Master Chirurgeon Gerita
della Mara is just one of the appellations I have. I happen to like this
one; it humbles me that other Chirurgeons thought I had earned it. Humble
is always good. But if someone is uncomfortable with "Master", then so be
it. All they need to do is yell "help" or "chirurgeon" and I'll be right
there, bag and all. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>If anyone
needs supplies, I as a human being will either share mine or work with those who
can get donations, or head up a 'gang buy'. This has absolutely no bearing
on Gerita as an at-large warranted officer of the Kingdom of Ansteorra in the
Society for Creative Anachronism. It is Carolle; just Carolle being what the
gods decreed she should be.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Annalies is
very right about one thing here: we, beginning at least with HE Caelin, have
worked very hard to give Ansteorran "wanna-bes" solid training and encourage
them to join us and work among us. With the efforts of several Chirurgeons
(is anyone taking notes for the next Master vote?), among them Caelin (already a
Master), Arkell (already a Master <smirk>), Caley, Cynthia, some weird
dude from Northern Region (also already a Master), and a few others, our guild
has grown. We are among the largest in the known world - in fact, by now
we may well be the largest. We work hard. We give up countless hours
of events and wars to make certain that everyone is safe, and wounds are bound
up before they get the chance to be infected. We are among the best-trained, and
with y'all always screeching for more training, I don't see that changing any
time soon. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>We are
Ansteorran Chirurgeons, we know our jobs, we do them well, and nothing we do or
don't do is any more likely to 'earn' a lawsuit than yonder marshal on the field
as long as we stick to our mandate.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I still hope
this kerfluffle goes the way of pickle barrel armor. They both have an odd
aroma.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=678353118-09112005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>G</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>People are like stained glass
windows. They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when darkness
sets in, their beauty is revealed only if there is a light from within. --
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
ansteorra-chirurgeon-bounces+hpockets=verizon.net@ansteorra.org
[mailto:ansteorra-chirurgeon-bounces+hpockets=verizon.net@ansteorra.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Crandall<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:18
AM<BR><B>To:</B> ansteorra-chirurgeon@ansteorra.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Ansteorra-chirurgeon] Fwd: Re: [KC] Fwd: Please post tothechirurgeon's
list<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>The BOD cannot tell me what I can or cannot bring to events. Whether
it is a level of knowledge or materials that save lives. </DIV>
<DIV>Only legal considerations or site owners can state that certain items are
considered in bad taste or will get me in jail. And thus should not be
present. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There are those in the Chirurgeonate who save lives. We are trained to
react. We will use the tools that are appropriate to the situation. We will
save lives. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Their policy states: </DIV>
<DIV>"This policy shall be supported by not allowing the<BR>Chirurgeon's
office to have in its possession advanced medical equipment<BR>such as
medications, IVs, oxygen tanks, nebulizers, defibrillators, etc."</DIV>
<DIV>(Their misunderstanding of the term: "advanced medical equipment" shows
their ignorance.) </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Fine with me. The Chirurgeon's office will not have them <U>in their
possession</U>. </DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The BOD has not been trained in the Good Samaritan laws. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>They also state: </DIV>
<DIV>"None of what is precluded above applies to what an<BR>individual with
advanced training may decide to do under his or her own<BR>license and with
their own equipment. The SCA has no authority over<BR>personal supplies."
</DIV>
<DIV>Never will my personal supplies will be in the Chirurgeon's office
possession. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The Chirgeonate attempted to use medieval terms to identify honors within
the system. Making an attempt at authenticity is required by that same BOD.
Heaven forbid that those who are Peers would feel threatened by our
bureauocracy. Now, "Good, Better, Best" as titles would imply more than we
want. </DIV>
<DIV>I suggest the following: </DIV>
<DIV>"Wanna Be" for those in training, both mundane and SCA procedures. </DIV>
<DIV>"Got A Warrant" for those who their fellows figure are trained. </DIV>
<DIV>"Atta Boy" for those who their fellows think they did really good for a
long time. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Or along the same requirements:</DIV>
<DIV>Serf</DIV>
<DIV>Fleam</DIV>
<DIV>Ol' Bag<BR></DIV>
<DIV>What I do want to happen is that the members of the misguided legal
committee and their litigious families please identify themselves so that I
know when I am treating them. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Crandall, Chirurgeon, Olde Foole</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"Carolle M. Cox" <hpockets@verizon.net></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=697483313-09112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I'm
sorry. What I see is an attempt by people who have no clue about first
aid, pre-hospital care, or, g--forbid, true emergency management to manage
and control people who do.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=697483313-09112005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=697483313-09112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I'm a
rather opinionated floozey, and I know it, but who cares at all what 'people
outside the SCA' think about what we call ourselves or each other?
Gosh, if they're going to freak over 'master chirurgeon', what will they do
about 'King'?? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=697483313-09112005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=697483313-09112005>This puts me in mind of a recent incident in which
Chirurgeons of all 'stripes' responded to a possible heart attack
call. That man is alive, wandering around SCA events today, because
the responders applied every skill, prayer, and bit of expertise they had,
and EMS was alerted quickly. Who on the BOD or anywhere else would
like to go to that man's widow and tell her that, yes, we did have EMTs and
Paramedics on site with medical-control permission to act; yes, we did have
aspirin; but we're sorry to report that we can only do basic first aid, and
so her life-long partner is dead? Right. At that point, our Legal
Committee would have a whole lot more to worry about than 'master
chirurgeon'!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=697483313-09112005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=697483313-09112005>However. In time, this situation will get
worked out. Every silly idea we as a Society have ever had has been
worked out with the passage of time (witness pickle barrels). I,
personally, will strip my kit of everything I am trained to use that would
lead me to overstep basic first aid, leave the gold stripe on my baldric,
and soldier on until things come to their senses.
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=697483313-09112005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=697483313-09112005>May
Hippocrates protect us all </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=697483313-09112005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=697483313-09112005>Gerita</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=697483313-09112005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>People are like stained glass
windows. They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when darkness
sets in, their beauty is revealed only if there is a light from within. --
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
ansteorra-chirurgeon-bounces+hpockets=verizon.net@ansteorra.org
[mailto:ansteorra-chirurgeon-bounces+hpockets=verizon.net@ansteorra.org]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>richard hall<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 09,
2005 12:43 AM<BR><B>To:</B> chirurgeon@att.net; chirurgeon@sca.org;
kc@sca.org; chirurgeonate-ansteorra@yahoogroups.com;
ansteorra-chirurgeon@ansteorra.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[Ansteorra-chirurgeon] Fwd: Re: [KC] Fwd: Please post to thechirurgeon's
list<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ok.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I can see where they are
coming from, to an extent. The BOD is all about covering their
ass. You and I both know that lawsuits have not happened at the
rate that they COULD have happened. A lot of that is due to the
waivers that are in place and due to the fact that the Chirurgeonate as
a whole has been good at keeping "treatment" to a minimum and by
providing good documentation. But, I think that they need to
realize that people will sue for NOT giving treatment just as fast as
for giving treatment. The AED issue is BS. If airports,
malls, police cars, etc. have them for "John Doe" to use, why can't
we? They are virtually idiot proof. Try to explain why one
was NOT used when available to a grieving spouse who just lost
their husband/wife to a massive MI that could have been treated with
early defib. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I can also see the logic
(though I don't agree with it) behind the name change. In a way it
does <U>imply</U> more training than others, even if we know the
difference. But rarely does anyone we treat at events even know
who is apprentice/Journeyman/Master anyway!! They just see the red
baldric and couldn't care the difference in the "racing
stripes."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> And it's BULLSHIT about
changing the CHIRURGEON GENERAL's name to something else.
WHY? Did somebody get jealous because our name is different than
everybody else's? Jeez Louise. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You're right. Maybe I don't want to
be KC after all. And you can tell Eleanor I said that!
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=arkellvomcophus@yahoo.com
href="mailto:arkellvomcophus@yahoo.com">richard hall</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=xaraxene@comcast.net
href="mailto:xaraxene@comcast.net">xaraxene@comcast.net</A> ; <A
title=medicfem@yahoo.com href="mailto:medicfem@yahoo.com">caley/penny
E</A> ; <A title=ladydds@verizon.net
href="mailto:ladydds@verizon.net">Sue Delk</A> ; <A
title=chrisl@vvm.com href="mailto:chrisl@vvm.com">chrisl@vvm.com</A> ;
<A title=hpockets@verizon.net
href="mailto:hpockets@verizon.net">Carolle M. Cox</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 08, 2005
2:02 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fwd: [KC] Fwd: Please
post to the chirurgeon's list</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>At this time this is FYI as the JKCs r refusing to put this out
until we get some answers that we can give to all. so this goes
nowhere Yet!!!!!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Arkell<BR><BR><B><I>B Carlock <<A
href="mailto:bcarlock4@sbcglobal.net">bcarlock4@sbcglobal.net</A>></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:31:01 -0800 (PST)<BR>From: B Carlock <<A
href="mailto:bcarlock4@sbcglobal.net">bcarlock4@sbcglobal.net</A>><BR>To:
<A href="mailto:kc@sca.org">kc@sca.org</A>, "<A
href="mailto:bcarlock4@sbcglobal.net">bcarlock4@sbcglobal.net</A>"
<<A
href="mailto:bcarlock4@sbcglobal.net">bcarlock4@sbcglobal.net</A>>,<BR>Jim
Carlock <<A
href="mailto:j-carlock@att.net">j-carlock@att.net</A>>, Galen
Ockham <<A
href="mailto:galen@chirurgeon.org">galen@chirurgeon.org</A>>,<BR>Richard
Threlkeld <<A
href="mailto:rjt@softwareinnovation.com">rjt@softwareinnovation.com</A>>,<BR>Therasia
von Tux <<A
href="mailto:no1home@onewest.net">no1home@onewest.net</A>><BR>CC:
<BR>Subject: [KC] Fwd: Please post to the chirurgeon's list<BR><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Hello to all KCs. Ms. Cady, our Board Ombudsman, has
sent this to me, requesting it be sent out to all Chirurgeons.
I am sending it to you verbatim, and please forward it to your
kingdom lists in its entirety. If you have concerns, comments,
questions, ideas, please contact me at <A
href="mailto:chirurgeon@sca.org">chirurgeon@sca.org</A> . Ms.
Cady has also included her directors address. </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks, </DIV>
<DIV>Eleanor</DIV>
<DIV>SC</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Unto the Chirurgeons of the SCA, greetings.<BR><BR>The
following will come to you from the Society Chirurgeon's office,
but<BR>the Board wants to offer some explanation for the
changes.<BR><BR>The structure of the Chirurgeon's office needs to be
more in line with the<BR>other offices of the SCA. The titles
presently used are somewhat confusing<BR>and inaccurate. For
example, the term 'Chirurgeon General,' while clever,<BR>is
inconsistent with other Society officers' titles (such as
Society<BR>Marshal). It also implies authority over more than the
basic first aid<BR>that the SCA provides. Additionally, the titles
of Apprentice, Journeyman<BR>and Master have connotations of a level
of skill that the Legal Committee<BR>is concerned pose significant
legal risk to the SCA. It would not be<BR>unreasonable for people
outside of the SCA to assume that a Master<BR>Chirurgeon has a
higher level of medical training than a Journeyman or<BR>Apprentice,
which is not necessarily the c! ! ! ase. Also, the term
'Master'<BR>within the SCA usually indicates possession of a
peerage-- confusion that<BR>is not necessary. These are changes in
name only. What the Society<BR>Chirurgeon's office shall use for a
new ranking system is to be<BR>determined.<BR><BR>Remember that the
SCA only provides first aid. Any advanced medical care<BR>is not in
the purview of the SCA and will not be performed as an
official<BR>function of any office of the SCA. Today, we live in a
world with easy<BR>access to advanced emergency medical care that
did not exist when the SCA<BR>started. The Chirurgeon's Handbook
states the purpose of the Chirurgeons<BR>clearly. We need to be
careful not to promote the perception that the SCA<BR>provides any
care beyond what is required to earn a basic first
aid<BR>certification. This policy shall be supported by not allowing
the<BR>Chirurgeon's office to have in its possession advanced
medical equipment<BR>such as medications, IVs, oxygen tanks,
nebulizers, defibrillators, etc.<BR>The problem is not only in using
these item, but in storing, maintaining,<BR>cleaning and supplies
for them. This is not allowed under the auspices of<BR>the SCA,
covered by insurance, or Good Samaritan protection as
individuals<BR>using them may not be trained or certified in their
use. Having such items<BR>present in the Chirurgeon's area of
operations significantly increases our<BR>legal risk and creates a
perception that the SCA provides a higher level<BR>of medical care
than we are willing or able to provide.<BR><BR>The Board of
Directors recognizes and applauds the volunteers who work<BR>within
the Chirurgeonate. You are skilled, well-meaning and
dedicated<BR>people. Many of you have advanced training and
certification. The Board<BR>appreciates that you donate your time
and skills to make the SCA a safer<BR>place to play. None of what is
precluded above applies to what an<BR>individual with advanced
training may decide to do under his or her own<BR>license and with
their own equipment. The SCA has no authority over<BR>personal
supplies. However, we do have authority over the
Chirurgeon's<BR>office, and within the purview of the Chirurgeonate,
the SCA only provides<BR>basic first aid. If an injured participant
requires more than basic first<BR>aid, they must be referred to a
medical facility. Chirurgeons who do more<BR>than that do so at
their own risk, and not as an officer of the SCA. All<BR>of our
large events should have paramedics and transport
present.<BR><BR>The Society Chirurgeon is currently working on these
changes and will pass<BR>along further information. The Chirurgeon's
Handbook will be revised to<BR>reflect this. Again, these changes
are being implemented out of necessity<BR>to decrease risk to the
SCA and its membership as a whole. This does not<BR>diminish the
Chirurgeons in any way; you are very important in making the<BR>SCA
events safer. This has been a long discussion with the Legal
Committ! ee<BR>and is not a capricious
change.<BR><BR>Respectfully,<BR><BR>Dena Cady - Director, SCA,
Inc.<BR>Ombudsman to the Chirurgeon's
office<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR><A
href="mailto:DIRECTORS@SCA.ORG">DIRECTORS@SCA.ORG</A><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV>From:
"drcady" <drcady@cox.net><BR>To: <chirurgeon@sca.org>,
<Bethcarlock4@sbcglobal.net><BR>Subject: Please post to the
chirurgeon's list<BR>Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:06:32 -0700<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Unto the Chiriurgeons of the SCA, greetings.<BR><BR>The
following will come to you from the Society Chirurgeon's office,
but<BR>the Board wants to offer some explanation for the
changes.<BR><BR>The structure of the Chirurgeon's office needs to be
more in line with the<BR>other offices of the SCA. The titles
presently used are somewhat confusing<BR>and inaccurate. For
example, the term 'Chirurgeon General,' while clever,<BR>is
inconsistent with other Society officers' titles (such as
Society<BR>Marshal). It also implies authority over more than the
basic first aid<BR>that the SCA provides. Additionally, the titles
of Apprentice, Journeyman<BR>and Master have connotations of a level
of skill that the Legal Committee<BR>is concerned pose significant
legal risk to the SCA. It would not be<BR>unreasonable for people
outside of the SCA to assume that a Master<BR>Chirurgeon has a
higher level of medical training than a Journeyman or<BR>Apprentice,
which is not necessarily the ! ! case. Also, the term
'Master'<BR>within the SCA usually indicates possession of a
peerage-- confusion that<BR>is not necessary. These are changes in
name only. What the Society<BR>Chirurgeon's office shall use for a
new ranking system is to be<BR>determined.<BR><BR>Remember that the
SCA only provides first aid. Any advanced medical care<BR>is not in
the purview of the SCA and will not be performed as an
official<BR>function of any office of the SCA. Today, we live in a
world with easy<BR>access to advanced emergency medical care that
did not exist when the SCA<BR>started. The Chirurgeon's Handbook
states the purpose of the Chirurgeons<BR>clearly. We need to be
careful not to promote the perception that the SCA<BR>provides any
care beyond what is required to earn a basic first
aid<BR>certification. This policy shall be supported by not allowing
the<BR>Chirurgeon's office to have in its possession advanced
medical equipment<BR>such as medications, IVs, oxygen tanks,
nebulizers, defibrillators, etc.<BR>The problem is not only in using
these item, but in storing, maintaining,<BR>cleaning and supplies
for them. This is not allowed under the auspices of<BR>the SCA,
covered by insurance, or Good Samaritan protection as
individuals<BR>using them may not be trained or certified in their
use. Having such items<BR>present in the Chirurgeon's area of
operations significantly increases our<BR>legal risk and creates a
perception that the SCA provides a higher level<BR>of medical care
than we are willing or able to provide.<BR><BR>The Board of
Directors recognizes and applauds the volunteers who work<BR>within
the Chirurgeonate. You are skilled, well-meaning and
dedicated<BR>people. Many of you have advanced training and
certification. The Board<BR>appreciates that you donate your time
and skills to make the SCA a safer<BR>place to play. None of what is
precluded above applies to what an<BR>individual with advanced
training may decide to do under his or her own<BR>license and with
their own equipment. The SCA has no authority over<BR>personal
supplies. However, we do have authority over the
Chirurgeon's<BR>office, and within the purview of the Chirurgeonate,
the SCA only provides<BR>basic first aid. If an injured participant
requires more than basic first<BR>aid, they must be referred to a
medical facility. Chirurgeons who do more<BR>than that do so at
their own risk, and not as an officer of the SCA. All<BR>of our
large events should have paramedics and transport
present.<BR><BR>The Society Chirurgeon is currently working on these
changes and will pass<BR>along further information. The Chirurgeon's
Handbook will be revised to<BR>reflect this. Again, these changes
are being implemented out of necessity<BR>to decrease risk to the
SCA and its membership as a whole. This does not<BR>diminish the
Chirurgeons in any way; you are very important in making the<BR>SCA
events safer. This has been a long discussion with the Legal
Committ! ee<BR>and is not a capricious
change.<BR><BR>Respectfully,<BR><BR>Dena Cady - Director, SCA,
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