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color=#0000ff size=2>Greetings,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=036423415-12082008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I was asked to repost this at the
waterbearing discussion at Pennsic. Please feel free to forward to
any list as long as you forward the entire post. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>In Service to Ansteorra,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>HL Aingeal Mac an Ghabhann</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kingdom Waterbearer</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Aingeal [mailto:clan_mac@charter.net]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Ansteorra WB;
ansteorra@ansteorra.org; ansteorra-chirurgeon; SCA-Chirurgeon@yahoogroups.com;
SCA-Waterbearers@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Waterbearing Law
clarification<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=902152716-18062008>Greetings,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=902152716-18062008> Let me see if I can give
everyone a little more background. The SCA is having to deal with compliance to
the federal and state laws. This is not about liability of law
suits. This is about being held accountable for an investigation, such as
the bad press and cost that can occur. In Texas we would have to pay for the
cost of the investigation including lab work. In the states I have looked
at, an individual is recommended to follow standard sanitation but is not liable
to the sanctions of the Health Department. The only one who can come
in if there is a problem is the Center for Disease Control and by the way they
can come into a private home if certain illnesses appear. But they only
look to stop the problem and to try to prevent a reoccurrence, there is no cost
to the individual. As you look at feast, that is an individual who
volunteers to do it, no official warrant making them an officers of the
corporation while in this capacity. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=902152716-18062008> The biggest change that
affected waterbearing is the change in 2005 to the Federal Food Code on
their definition of Food Establishment which I have quoted below. Some
states have not changed their definition to reflect this at this time, but that
does not change the fact that Corpora requires us to follow all
laws.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=902152716-18062008> While I enjoy my job as Kingdom
Waterbearer, I took an oath to protect the Kingdom and the Society. So if this
is what is necessary I will do waterbearing as an individual looking after my
SCA friends and family. I did it 20 plus years ago and I can do it now. We used
to put donation cans out on the tables. When I have needed donations to provide
what the fighters wanted, they stepped up and gave money. Please do not see this
as end to waterbearing just a possible change in how we do things.
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=902152716-18062008><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2> I am not a lawyer, but I worked in
state and federal compliance for water and food safety. I knew which rules
applied and where to find them when I worked on our Kingdom Handbook. I
spent hours researching to make sure that the book I wrote would cover both
states in Ansteorra. Please feel free to contact me if you have
questions 817-480-2444.<SPAN class=908143921-18062008> Please feel
free to cross post. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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</SPAN>Aingeal<SPAN class=902152716-18062008> Mac an
Ghabhann</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=902152716-18062008>Kingdom Waterbearer
Ansteorra</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=Default style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt"><FONT color=#000000>(2) <B>"Food establishment"
</B>includes: <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=Default style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT color=#000000><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">(a) An element of the operation such as a
transportation vehicle or a central preparation facility that supplies a vending
location or satellite feeding location <I>unless the vending or feeding location
is permitted by the </I></SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt">REGULATORY
AUTHORITY</SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">; and
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=Default style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; COLOR: windowtext; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">(b)
An operation that is conducted in a mobile, stationary, temporary, or permanent
facility or location; where consumption is on or off the </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; COLOR: windowtext; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">PREMISES</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; COLOR: windowtext; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">;
and regardless of whether there is a charge for the </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; COLOR: windowtext; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">FOOD</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt; COLOR: windowtext; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">.
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