[Anst-dancers] Ansteorra-dancers - levels
russmax at sbcglobal.net
Thu Oct 30 23:47:12 PST 2003
As one of the big proponents of levels, let me concur that the levels
don't seem to be doing anything.
Their only purpose seems to be as a source of hard-feelings and
ill-will between members. I was wrong, and everyone who was against
levels was right.
I think biographies and a "go-to" list would effectively serve better.
Then we don't need judgement calls.
On Wednesday, October 29, 2003, at 04:09 PM, Kelly Erickson wrote:
>> Guild levels, it seems to me, serve two purposes. One is to identify
>> levels. This may also be assessed, however, through biographies and
>> knowledgeable coordinators. In fact, for a small group of "geeks"
>> everyone knows everyone else, levels convey no useful data. The
>> Second purpose
>> of levels to to grant recognition, or establish precedence. Who's
>> better than
>> who? Who are the peons? In the absence of any official recognition
>> kingdom or barony, this recognition strokes egos and may help
>> recognize previously overlooked activity. When there *is* "official"
>> recognition, guild ranks may easily be abused by those who seek
>> paths to glory. In the case of dance, activity at events should be
> I think that we originally went with the guild levels in an effort to
> emulate Saltare, the Meridies' dance guild. The idea was to give
> people goals to work toward within our guild, to give local groups an
> idea of who might be called on to teach or help out (with a record of
> their level of skill or knowledge with a list of particular dances
> known), and to give us recognition when that might not be available at
> a Kingdom level. I can't say this wasn't a bit of ego stroking, but it
> was also part of the continuing effort to get dance recognized in
> Ansteorra as a serious A&S field.
> But what works for one kingdom clearly doesn't work for all; at this
> point, I'd say with no more interest than people have shown over 3
> years, we should just give up on it. Alternately, we could give it one
> more good try, and have all the local guild heads get all their guild
> members to sign up in the next month - if we still don't get much
> response, then give up.
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