[Ansteorra-marshals] Rawhide swords

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Okay how do I get off this mailing list? I'm not even in the SCA anymore.



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From: Earl Marshal <kingdom at marshal.ansteorra.org>
To: Discussion list for all Ansteorran marshals <ansteorra-marshals at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wed, Feb 24, 2016 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-marshals] Rawhide swords

from the Earl Marshals' perspective, there are two rules I think beardiscussion (entire section included below):1. With the exception of the hilts, guards and pommels, no metal or****non-approved rigid, granular****, or liquid material may be used in theconstruction of single or two-handed weapons including spears.11. Rattan shall not be treated in any way that will substantially reduceits flexibility (e.g., treated with wax, resin, fiberglass, etc.).So therein lies my real queries.Does wetting down rawhide, wrapping it around a sword, and then allowing itto shrink and harden "substantially reduce it's flexibility"?orIs rawhide a non-approved rigid material?Thoughts,Jean Paul1. With the exception of the hilts, guards and pommels, no metal ornon-approved rigid, granular, or liquid material may be used in theconstruction of single or two-handed weapons including spears.2. Primary weapons used single-handed shall have a wrist strap (orequivalent restraint) which will keep the weapon from leaving the immediatearea of the user if released during any part of a bout or combat.Restraints are not required on hafted weapons used single-handed, or onsingle-handed back-up weapons.3. Flails are expressly prohibited.4. Mechanical devices known as “sliders,” which are used to guide or propelspears, are prohibited.5. All weapons shall have all cutting edges and thrusting tips marked in acontrasting color.6. The striking surfaces of all weapons, including the tip, shall bewrapped in a manner that allows no rattan splinters to protrude.7. All thrusting tips and striking heads must be securely attached to theweapon.8. The edges and tips of all striking surfaces shall be rounded.9. No part of a weapon shall have sharp edges or protrusions withcross-section of less than 1.25 inch (31.8mm) in diameter. Guards, pommels,hooks, etc., shall be firmly and securely affixed to the weapon haft.10. It shall not be possible to force into a legal face guard, any part ofa weapon which may reasonably be expected to contact an opponent duringcombat more than .5 inch (12.7 mm). Rattan weapons may have a handlesection which is less than 1.25 inch (31.8 mm), so long as it meets thiscriterion. Combat archery shafts may be thinner as long as the head andtail meet the criteria.11. Rattan shall not be treated in any way that will substantially reduceits flexibility (e.g., treated with wax, resin, fiberglass, etc.).12. No weapon shall exceed 6 pounds (2.73 kg).13. No missile weapons intended to simulate firearms, slings, slingstaffs,nor atlatls can be used on the field of armored combat.14. No “punch weapons” or thrusting weapons that have the blade or tip moreperpendicular than parallel to the grip.15. No shovel handles on any thrusting weapon.On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Liam Gordon <cenliamgordon2005 at gmail.com>wrote:> JP,>> I have looked at these types of swords, and I have been hit with these> types of swords. With the rawhide encasing the sword, it covers the rattan> better than strapping tape. The rawhide, for the most part, completely> encases the sword. If the sword fails and breaks, I think it will stay> inside the rawhide with no issues what so ever...>> I don't believe these need to be considered experimental at all...>> My thoughts on the matter.>> Cheers!> Liam> On Feb 24, 2016 15:45, "Earl Marshal" <kingdom at marshal.ansteorra.org>> wrote:>> > I'm curious if these weapons comply with our standard construction rules,> > or if they should be considered experimental.> >> > Thoughts?> >> > Jean Paul> >> >> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 6:36 AM, <sethrcagle at gmail.com> wrote:> >> > > My group uses the rawhide covered swords, we took it from An Tir who it> > > seems like every other person has a raw hide covered sword. What do you> > > want to know? It's just a covering for the sword instead of using tape.> > >> > > Sven> > >> > > Sent from my iPhone> > >> > > > On Feb 17, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Earl Marshal <> > > kingdom at marshal.ansteorra.org> wrote:> > > >> > > > So, who's experimented with them?> > > >> > > > JP> > > > _______________________________________________> > > > Ansteorra-marshals mailing list> > > > Ansteorra-marshals at lists.ansteorra.org> > > >> > http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-marshals-ansteorra.org> > > _______________________________________________> > > Ansteorra-marshals mailing list> > > Ansteorra-marshals at lists.ansteorra.org> > >> http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-marshals-ansteorra.org> > >> > _______________________________________________> > Ansteorra-marshals mailing list> > Ansteorra-marshals at lists.ansteorra.org> > http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-marshals-ansteorra.org> >> _______________________________________________> Ansteorra-marshals mailing list> Ansteorra-marshals at lists.ansteorra.org> http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-marshals-ansteorra.org>_______________________________________________Ansteorra-marshals mailing listAnsteorra-marshals at lists.ansteorra.orghttp://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-marshals-ansteorra.org