<DIV>There's a lot ot cover here and a lot of it depends on one's philosophy of the game. My approach is that I'm out there to have fun and to assist my side in the battle.So I don't worry about an arrow once its on its way down range. If the subjct (victim) feels the hit and calls it then all the better but I'm usually reloading and moving so I may not see it. If he doesn't feel it then he isn't obliged to call it and there is no dishonor in that. If he knows it is good and doesn't call it then it his honor not mine that's in jeapardy. As for those time when the recepient isn't sure, well, if I see it isn't good I let him know if I can. There is a lot of confusion out there on the field and there are bound to be honest mistakes so I don't fret the small stuff. </DIV>
<DIV> It is a sorce of frustration for many archers to see a good shot not be called by a fighter but I would argue that our ratio of missed, close but not quite, good but not called, and "got him!" is equivalent to a swordsman or a spearman. A swordsman will strike many blows and most of them will be blocked or missed or light. Only a few will be kill shots. I think if you examined the number in each category you would fing it equivalent to what an archer experiences. Its a little bit more of a nuisance for us as we have to reload after each shot. It takes seconds for us to deliver three shots while only a fraction of that time for a swordsman. </DIV>
<DIV> On the subject of misfires my attitude is "So it misfired- reload and shoot again." The reason the comment about reloading without looking at the string is a stock answer is because it has a geat deal of merit. If your having trouble putting an arrow on the string I think the most likely problem will be the gloves you are wearing. I use baseball or sports gloves and they work great for me. </DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:32:18 -0500<BR>From: Mike <MEGGIDDO@NETZERO.NET><BR>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-missile] Re: Ansteorra-missile Digest, Vol 25,<BR>Issue 6<BR>To: Missile combat in Ansteorra <ANSTEORRA-MISSILE@ANSTEORRA.ORG><BR>Message-ID: <43244E02.7040806@netzero.net><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>Agree on being short lived, especially in an open field battle. And not <BR>having or moving to reload does mean that you would wound up being <BR>dead. On a more serious note, I feel the need to ask a couple of <BR>questions which the answers are never clear cut and clear in any one's mind.<BR><BR>How do you deal with two separate items or rather issues on the field - <BR>reloading while also being able to answer a question from the opposing <BR>side about if the arrow that you just shot -<BR><BR>Did the arrow hit was a valid or "good"
shot upon your intended target?<BR><BR>And please do not bring up the stock answer about one should be able to <BR>re-load without looking, especially with APD's on the arrows nor as some <BR>have suggested that one should use the back of APD's as the lock - which <BR>has it's own distinct issues and/or concerns which have been discuss <BR>about the Hugh percentage of mis-fires. Plus, how difficult it is to <BR>maintained contact with the string and the back of the APD's.<BR><BR>Do you or anyone even bring this up when working with other CA's, while <BR>stressing to them about all the other things that they need to keep in <BR>mind while on the field?<BR><BR>If so, then somewhere it is being lost and this is due to the reactions <BR>that I am receiving from heavy fighters when I waved them back on the <BR>field when I clearly see that the one of my arrows failed to actually <BR>strike a valid or "good" area upon their person and the surprise look on <BR>their face when I
do.<BR><BR>Or is this something new and have been not really be discuss before in <BR>depth?<BR><BR>I believe if this action or rather this mind set should also brought up <BR>and explained then Combat Archery might not have such a "bad" rep among <BR>those outside of it. There will always be people who think ill of any <BR>group that is not within their "idea" or their game plan.<BR>Example - I was asked by a fighter that fights with a spear on the field <BR>about some the negative comments that he had received from opposing <BR>fighters when he "killed" them. You know what, it was basely the same <BR>type of comments I and all other CA's have heard over time - the only <BR>difference was the noun being used, instead of superman it was "Archer, <BR>%$%#@#^&".<BR><BR>The rest of the fighting community is and has been stressing to both <BR>current and up and coming fighters about being Chivalric both on and off <BR>the field. IMHO, the best and easiest way or perhaps approach for
a <BR>Combat Archer is accepted or at least be thought of in a "kinder light" <BR>to actually provide feedback and not only when the opposing fighter(s) <BR>ask for validation but more importantly when "Arrow Did Not Hit a Valid <BR>Or "Good" area to be consider a "kill". There is nothing that prevents <BR>in the rules for a CA to provide this type of Negative Target Feedback <BR>and should be encourage as mush as possible.<BR><BR>The results for me have been that from the non-Belt to the Belt and <BR>Nobility have stopped for a brief second to salute me with their weapon, <BR>then we go back to the business at hand - which is to complete the <BR>scenario, remain alive while trying our best within the rules to remove <BR>the other side.<BR><BR><BR>Michael Kettering<BR><BR><BR><BR>Robin Allen wrote:<BR><BR>> Yes I'm pretty much just messing with you. I've always stressed to the <BR>> CA with whom I've worked to reload quickly. Naked bows equals dead <BR>> archers. Besides we
tend not to live that long on the battlefield anyway.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Then on the hand - I have to ask -<BR>> "Are you just messing with me?" :-)<BR>><BR>> Take care,<BR>><BR>> Michael Kettering<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Robin Allen wrote:<BR>><BR>> > YOU MEAN YOU'RE NOT RELOADING!!!!!!!!!<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > I do NOT wave with my full gauntlet, if I do then it is with the<BR>> > bow as<BR>> > well, I usually wave with my Archer's Gauntlet - you know the one<BR>> > with<BR>> > the next arrow to be shot at some bore fighter and/or another combat<BR>> > archer. :)<BR>> ><BR>> > Michael Kettering<BR>> ><BR>> > John Moore wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > > Hi Mike, to clarify. Per Society rules adopted by Ansteorra. A<BR>> > > archer may wear a full gauntlet with a archers gauntlet with a<BR>> > > longbow. They may also wear two archers gauntlets if they
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