ARN - Re: Moulinettes

[artimis]

Greetings, all --

(I believe HE Kazimir wrote:)

>On the idea of Moulinettes..., attacks that are delivered
with a hacking motion are
>illegal.  Whereas it may be argued that the moulinette
simply places the weapon into
>position for an attack by utilizing a hacking motion, this
allowance is questionable
>in my mind.


The relative danger of a hacking motion comes from the
impact -- if the motion can be used and the impact
controlled, then the use of a particular technique should be
allowed and not legislated away by whim of those who don't
want to face or use the technique. (For whatever reason -- )

In An Tir, we've been using moulinette move for going on
three years with no reported incidents -- the key is keeping
the elbow and wrist loose as the circular movement is
completed. I'll also disagree that a moulinette is a
"hacking" motion, btw -- the dynamic of the move and
subsequent follow-through is more akin to a slicing rather
than hacking motion.

>
>In a perfect world, if we were both standing still, or ONLY
the attacker was moving,
>then such a moulinette would work perfectly to position the
tip of the blade for a
>cut.  However, with both opponents moving, there is GREAT
chance that the arc of the
>blade during the moulinette will end in edge contact with
the body of the opponent..,
>making it a "hack", and unsafe.


The same could be said of folks who dive in and core-sample
their opponents with over-hard thusts or use rattan daggers.
It's not the technique that is unsafe, just the person
attempting it. Our experience here suggests that it can be
utilized safely by the vast major of folks who undertake the
time to master it.

>Right now, I am content to wait and see as some folks
experiment..., however, "I was
>trying a moulinette" will NOT be an acceptable excuse if
you hack your opponent more
>than once in a tournament, and will result in a warning.


Perfectly valid reaction, and quite acceptable. I'd also
encourage you to try the move out for yourself -- and
remember, combat is not the place to "experiment" with a new
move or technique; that's what practice is for.

Regards to all,

Msgr. Artimis
An Tir

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