[Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules
James Crouchet
james at crouchet.com
Tue Oct 16 01:17:59 PDT 2012
I made the change to "Foil & Epee". My reasons were:
- Foil & Epee is clear and descriptive, even to someone just coming into
the SCA from the modern fencing world. We get a lot of those who have some
college fencing.
- Epees and Foils are not rapiers. Calling that "rapier" and calling
the use of actual rapiers "heavy rapier" is nonsensical.
- Rapier can refer to the overall activity, to the blades used in "heavy
rapier", or to the activity of fencing with Foil & Epee. Thus use of the
term was confusing and contradictory. I wanted to simplify and clarify.
- "Light" is used in various ways in the SCA and can mean:
- Foil and Epee combatants
- All rapier combatants, "light fighters", still frequently heard in
Ansteorra
- Any non-rattan combat activity
- A now obsolete type of combat archer who was not required to wear
full armor
- Any combat archer. This is a relic left over from the item above
but still heard on occasion in kingdoms where "light archers" were used.
The "heavy" in "heavy rapier" was kept transitionally. I hope we see the
language change in the next SCA rules revision to use the terms "Foil &
Epee" and "Rapier", at which time I would expect the Ansteorran rules to
change to drop the "heavy" part.
Christian Doré
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Chuck Kaun <jack_a_lope31 at hotmail.com>wrote:
> Exactly so...there is no "light" anywhere on the cards for rapier.
>
> I am curious about why and thought about something else.
>
> I am fairly new to the rapier community, about 4 years now. When I first
> started, it was not about epee/foil versus rapier but about the
> pre-existing smaller Rapier blades versus the new heavier Schlager
> blades which seemed to be in every discussion.
>
> That may be why we are seeing rapier versus Heavy rapier on the cards.
> People have merely forgoten why and are assuming it has to do with
> epee/foil. Is this possible?
>
> Karl Thorgeirsson
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