[Ansteorra-rapier] A question about how we "Weight" fighters

[Don Pieter]

Using a rank/OP based point structure for a tourney has been done for years. In 20+ years of active tourneying I have come across it many times. I think it works out ok in the end because those who are newer have less to lose from a single fight and more to gain from winning where as someone with higher awards are made to be a target which is what we should be anyway ;)

I would say that the awards and structure for points in an activity should be linked to the activity at hand. Making a knight the same target as a WS in a rapier tourney is not fair to the knight if they are new to the weapon. Such as I would hate to be the same target as a centurion in a hard suit tourney as I rarely pick up a taped piece of grass and hit people with it. There I would be the novice. Just my two coins which I will need back to place on the eyes of my next opponent ;). 

Don Pieter

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On Sep 27, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Carl Fryday <gassion_de_beaumarchais at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Use whatever scale you like, as long as I get to fight.
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> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:00:16 -0500
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> If we MUST weight then that seems a valid matrix. Otherwise weighting could be done via consultation by whomever the principle of the tournament is (Royals, B&B, etc.) or possibly weighted by voted of all the other combatants.
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> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Jhan Knebel <rixende at gmail.com> wrote:
> Historically in Rapier, I have regularly seen weighted tournaments weighted in the same or similar ways that they are being weighted at Bryn Gwlad this weekend.
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> For Reference:
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> 5 – Royal family or current/former Queen’s champions
> 4 – White scarf or equiv or Chivalry
> 3 – Cadets or Centurions
> 2 – Anyone with a combat award
> 1 – All others
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> My question is this:
>  
> I am curious as to what people think of continuing to use Cadet as a determining factor, when it has no definition associated with skill level. 
> We do have awards based on skill and merit that allow us to reflect 5 levels of fighters. Granted, it does not mirror a 1 to 1 ratio for heavy fighters, but does it have to? 
> 5 – Current/former Queen’s champions
> 4 – White scarf or equiv
> 3 – Sable Talon for Rapier
> 2 – Queen's Rapier
> 1 – All others
>  
> I can see valid points for and against it, and just wanted to see what other people think.
>  
> PLEASE NOTE: I have NO problems with the format of the tournament for this Bryn Gwlad Baronial. Many events use this or a similar formula, it was just this publication that brought these thought back to the front of my mind. I've been kicking them around since the creating of the Optio, which became the Talon.
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