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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Interesting viewpoint, and I can’t say I disagree. It would be interesting to see how that would change things, where people would get ranked differently. Maybe try it at a big practice or for a fun tourney?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Another possible way of weighting that could be considered is based purely on skill and experience. It is more subjective, however, so naturally there would be some that would not be happy with it. But then, awards can be viewed subjectively as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Green: new fighters, those just starting rapier, or those who do not have an understanding of swordplay. Generally are not much of a threat to those in the other categories. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yellow: fighters with some experience and skill, and will sometimes be a threat to those in ‘higher’ categories.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Red: fighters with enough experience and skill that they are a threat to pretty much anyone most of the time. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Black: the elite. Those who can win pretty much any fight or tourney they put their decide to.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Note that no awards or titles are used. I find that the reality is, some have more or less skill than the awards or titles they hold show. Not all White Scarves are Elite. Some cadets and non-scarves have come up the ranks and been in the ‘red’ category, or even Elite before they were made part of the order. Being a cadet, or getting a Sable Talon, or QR, doesn’t bump you up a category. Improving does. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Also – I started using “White” for the Elite, but changed my mind. First, some will automatically assume that it means all White Scarves are part of it, which is not the case, and second, I find black seems to have more of a sense of….finality….to it. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Don Corvin Fenarro<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ansteorra-rapier-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:ansteorra-rapier-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jhan Knebel<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ansteorra RapierNet<br><b>Subject:</b> [Ansteorra-rapier] A question about how we "Weight" fighters<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Historically in Rapier, I have regularly seen weighted tournaments weighted in the same or similar ways that they are being weighted at Bryn Gwlad this weekend. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>For Reference:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>5 – Royal family or current/former Queen’s champions<br>4 – White scarf or equiv or Chivalry<br>3 – Cadets or Centurions<br>2 – Anyone with a combat award<br>1 – All others <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My question is this:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am curious as to what people think of continuing to use Cadet as a determining factor, when it has no definition associated with skill level. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We do have awards based on skill and merit that allow us to reflect 5 levels of fighters. Granted, it does not mirror a 1 to 1 ratio for heavy fighters, but does it have to? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>5 – Current/former Queen’s champions<br>4 – White scarf or equiv <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>3 – Sable Talon for Rapier<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2 – Queen's Rapier <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>1 – All others <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I can see valid points for and against it, and just wanted to see what other people think.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>PLEASE NOTE: I have NO problems with the format of the tournament for this Bryn Gwlad Baronial. Many events use this or a similar formula, it was just this publication that brought these thought back to the front of my mind. I've been kicking them around since the creating of the Optio, which became the Talon.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In Service,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rixende<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Baroness Rixende de Rouen, CIM, CSM<br>Quidam audit valde, facit valde<br><a href="mailto:rixende@gmail.com">rixende@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>