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<TD style="RIGHT: auto" vAlign=top>Pug, I agree on Dante's. I like how it takes in account what other martial arts or other activities a person has done. But it does seem like a lot of work.<BR><BR>Probably my biggest concern over the <VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>one you're proposing to use is the "Royal Family" being weighted the same as a WS. For some, that's a fair assessment, but for some others, not nearly as much so.<BR><BR>Corvin<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 9/27/12, Pug Bainter <I><pug@pug.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV style="RIGHT: auto" class=yiv1967460228plainMail>Good Morning,<WBR><WBR> This missive is as a combatant and not as the Baron of Bryn Gwlad.<WBR><WBR> The weighted melee format is one that is fast and furious. If the format<WBR>was for each unit to bring a combined score of a certain level, the method<WBR>might be different. In this case everyone will be ran through a queue over<WBR>and over as much as they can stand getting a new team each time. While I've<WBR>seen this particular format used on the Armored field a lot, I've not seen<WBR>it on the Rapier field so figuring out a translation can be difficult so<WBR>some tweaking may happen the day of the tournament if the powers who be<WBR>notice it's not working well. Coming up with a format that can quickly<WBR>identify the individual in line is the key to keeping this running smoothly.<WBR><WBR> <WBR> In my opinion, the Talon isn't something that's taken off well
and *if* it<WBR>becomes more prevalent it could be used as one of the weighting instead of<WBR>the Cadet status. While I fully know that Cadet is not an award, it is an<WBR>outward sign that someone is serious about the activity and is seriously<WBR>aiming towards top honors. (That is a topic for another day. *grin*)<WBR><WBR> With regards to combat, I'm of the opinion that someone who is highly<WBR>skilled in one of our martial art forms can transition over to the other,<WBR>which we've shown with the "Grant" fighting melee at Gulf Wars. While this<WBR>is an Armored combat activity, there are those of the White Scarf and<WBR>related orders that show up and participate while holding their own. <WBR><WBR> If you notice in the "weighting" system proposed, there was some thought<WBR>given to how one would translate armored rank to rapier by shifting it down<WBR>one rank. If you give a Rapier combatant a spear, they are likely to do<WBR>okay, so
the counter is that if you give a sword fighter a thrusting only<WBR>weapon they are likely to do reasonably okay despite taking out some of the<WBR>shots from their toolbox.<WBR><WBR> I think it'd be great to see other variations on this tried to figure out<WBR>some good methods for doing it. Provost Dante's format is fairly complicated<WBR>to get the initial ranking, but takes into the various aspects of<WBR>conditioning and skill that this type of "weighting" is simplifying.<WBR><WBR>Ciao,<WBR>Pug<WBR><WBR>_______________________________________________<WBR>Ansteorra-rapier mailing list<WBR><A href="" rel=nofollow>Ansteorra-rapier@lists.ansteorra.org</A><WBR>http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-rapier-ansteorra.org<WBR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV><WBR>_______________________________________________<WBR>Ansteorra-rapier mailing list<WBR><A href="mailto:Ansteorra-rapier@lists.ansteorra.org"
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