Would they listen? I would certainly hope so. But I would also counter that they would also listen to the other 10% to see why they have not agreed with the 90. And then they would choose which was the right path. We are lucky, our Crowns do listen to all of us, not just those that agree with them.<br>
<br>Avery<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Peter Wohlers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:donpieter@aol.com" target="_blank">donpieter@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto"><div>And if 90% of the community came to that 1% you don't think they would listen? </div><div class="im"><div>Pieter<br><br><div>Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui</div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div>
<div class="h5"><div><br>On Oct 10, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Sean Hertzberg <<a href="mailto:colsith@gmail.com" target="_blank">colsith@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Actually, you would be wrong. The choice will eventually be made by less than 1% of the population. We can give advice, but the choice belongs to the Crown at a Kingdom level, and to the Society Marshals above that. People can make their opinions known, but this is not a democracy.<br>
<br>Avery<br>Royalist<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Peter Wohlers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:donpieter@aol.com" target="_blank">donpieter@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto"><div>Actually a 90% majority does in fact have they right to tell you you can't use something if that majority has the rules changed to tell you that they are no longer legal. </div><div><br></div><div>
And I am not the only one that says they are relics. Thank you,</div><div><div>Pieter<br><br><div>Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui</div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div><div><div><br>On Oct 10, 2012, at 6:18 PM, Jay Rudin <<a href="mailto:rudin@peoplepc.com" target="_blank">rudin@peoplepc.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font color="#000000"><font><font face="arial,sans-serif">I've always had several things in my bag that over 90% of the kingdom don't have in their bags. 90% of the kingdom has no right to tell me that I can't use a large round target, a 30" Del Tin, a boffer beer mug, a chainmail glove, a scabbard - or an epee.<br>
<br>And it's not a relic if people are still using it, unless "relic" means "something Pieter doesn't want to use and therefore nobody else should be allowed to use either".<br><br>Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin<br>
</font></font></font><blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:0px;BORDER-LEFT:#0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Peter Wohlers <u></u>
<br>Sent: Oct 10, 2012 6:01 PM
<br>To: Ansteorra RapierNet <u></u>
<br>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules
<br><br><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><div>Why do people drive a 1975 olds cutlass? I dunno. Doesn't make much sense to me to use a weapon that over 90% of the kingdom (or many other kingdoms) doesn't even carry in their bags. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I have heard price but a Hanwei or Alchem are very reasonably priced and will last way longer then a foil or épée with normal use. </div><div><br></div><div>I have heard sportsmanship because some people think they will have an advantage over others with a light blade. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Fear? Fear of hitting or being hit with a rapier v an épée or foil. </div><div><br></div><div>Laziness?</div><div><br></div><div>Poor training?</div><div><br></div><div>Obama?</div><div><br></div><div>
Take your pick. But none of those are a good excuse to keep relics out of the museum of Sca rapier history. </div><div><br></div><div>Pieter<br><br><div>Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui</div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div>
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On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Chris Zakes <<a href="mailto:dontivar@gmail.com" target="_blank">dontivar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><br>
They are a dead simulator, a relic of fossil days.
<font></font></blockquote><br>
If they're just fossils, then why was Asbiorn talking about using them
fairly recently in Bonwicke, or Rixende talking about someone using one
at the last Elfsea Baronial? <br><br>
<u></u> <u></u>-Tivar
Moondragon<br>
<u></u> <u></u>
fossil-in-residence
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