<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>If not now when? We have already had the patient on life support for 6 years. Pull the damn plug. Let the foils and epees go with grace to meet their French/Russian maker. </div><div><br></div><div>Pieter </div><div>Going back to my popcorn and cider. <br><br><div>Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui</div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Jesus Cavazos <<a href="mailto:toshirokoi@hotmail.com">toshirokoi@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div dir="ltr"> I think the time for it's retirement is close at hand, but it's not here yet. If nothing else just as a teaching tool.<br><br>Toshiro<br>Who started with foil and is one of the ten who does know how to inspect a foil and an epee.<br> <br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: <a href="mailto:kevwilson@swbell.net">kevwilson@swbell.net</a><br>Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:00:19 -0500<br>To: <a href="mailto:kolfinnakyrii@yahoo.com">kolfinnakyrii@yahoo.com</a>; <a href="mailto:ansteorra-rapier@lists.ansteorra.org">ansteorra-rapier@lists.ansteorra.org</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:ansteorra-rapier@lists.ansteorra.org">ansteorra-rapier@lists.ansteorra.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules<br><br><div>While that is a very good point, why go through the effort to train marshals to inspect things that are never used anymore? </div><div><br></div><div>Corvin<br><br>On Oct 10, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Kira Langsjoen <<a href="mailto:kolfinnakyrii@yahoo.com">kolfinnakyrii@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>From your email below, Avery, you are saying that the issue is that we marshals are not being trained to inspect all the types of blades that can be used in tournaments and in practices. We are only being trained to use the "popular" ones, the heavy rapiers. Shouldn't the solution be to better train and familiarize the marshals with the inspection and use of epees/foils (which /do/ get used at practices rather often, in my experience), rather than changing the rules in a way that accommodate our inadequacies?</span> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><br></div><div><font face="times new roman, new york, times, serif">kolfinna in kyrra Otarsdottir<br><br></font></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Sean Hertzberg <<a href="mailto:colsith@gmail.com">colsith@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Jay Rudin <<a href="mailto:rudin@ev1.net">rudin@ev1.net</a>>; Ansteorra RapierNet <<a href="mailto:ansteorra-rapier@lists.ansteorra.org">ansteorra-rapier@lists.ansteorra.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:24 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="ecxyiv601378669">The main issue for this change, from what I can see (remember, I am not the one proposing this, this is my personal take on it) has less to do with the fighters using it. It is the lack of marshals that have ever seen one and would know what to look for to see if the blade in question is safe. I will use Don Lorenzo as an example, my apologies if anyone is offended. :-)<div>
<br></div><div>Don Lorenzo has been playing for around 5 years now. He is now a WS, he is the southern regional marshal, he is an authorizing marshal...and I don't know if he has ever seen an epee or a foil, let alone if he would know how to inspect one. That is just one example....how many marshals out there would look and an epee or foil and have no idea what they were supposed to do? This is not a training issue, it is just that the newer marshals have never had a chance to see one as they show up so very rarely. </div>
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