<head><style>body{font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:#ffffff;color:black;}p{margin:0px;}</style></head><body><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif">I've always had several things in my bag that over 90% of the kingdom don't have in their bags. 90% of the kingdom has no right to tell me that I can't use a large round target, a 30" Del Tin, a boffer beer mug, a chainmail glove, a scabbard - or an epee.<br><br>And it's not a relic if people are still using it, unless "relic" means "something Pieter doesn't want to use and therefore nobody else should be allowed to use either".<br><br>Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin<br></font></font></font><blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Peter Wohlers <donpieter@aol.com>
<br>Sent: Oct 10, 2012 6:01 PM
<br>To: Ansteorra RapierNet <ansteorra-rapier@lists.ansteorra.org>
<br>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules
<br><br><zzzhtml><zzzhead><zzzmeta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></zzzmeta></zzzhead><zzzbody dir="auto"><div>Why do people drive a 1975 olds cutlass? I dunno. Doesn't make much sense to me to use a weapon that over 90% of the kingdom (or many other kingdoms) doesn't even carry in their bags. </div><div><br></div><div>I have heard price but a Hanwei or Alchem are very reasonably priced and will last way longer then a foil or épée with normal use. </div><div><br></div><div>I have heard sportsmanship because some people think they will have an advantage over others with a light blade. </div><div><br></div><div>Fear? Fear of hitting or being hit with a rapier v an épée or foil. </div><div><br></div><div>Laziness?</div><div><br></div><div>Poor training?</div><div><br></div><div>Obama?</div><div><br></div><div>Take your pick. But none of those are a good excuse to keep relics out of the museum of Sca rapier history. </div><div><br></div><div>Pieter<br><br><div>Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui</div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Chris Zakes <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:dontivar@gmail.com">dontivar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite=""><br>
They are a dead simulator, a relic of fossil days.
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If they're just fossils, then why was Asbiorn talking about using them
fairly recently in Bonwicke, or Rixende talking about someone using one
at the last Elfsea Baronial? <br><br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>-Tivar
Moondragon<br>
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fossil-in-residence
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