<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'm trying to keep out of this discussion and be as informed as possible when I make my recommendation to the crown and earl marshal. Ideally, that will be done by saturday at the latest. Once I step down as KRM, (also hopefully on saturday), I'll be happy to share my opinion, but for now, I will keep my opinion out of the discussion.<div><br></div><div>Iago</div><div>KRM<br><div><div>On Oct 15, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Puck Curtis wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">The Rapier Marshallate is not a democracy and this is not the first time this conversation has occurred. Eventually a marshal is going to ditch these weapons <b><i>over the objections</i></b> of a few people that want to keep them as tournament-legal forms. As far as unpopular decisions go, this is minor league stuff. There is little more use to be had from continuously churning the butter as it is the internet equivalent of a 3 week rope-a-dope that does nothing but delay change. If this KRM doesn't do it, the next one might, and if not that one, then maybe the next.<div> <br><div><div>Take a page from Yoda; <b>do or do not</b>. </div><div>The potty, it you must get off of.</div><div><br></div><div>Somebody poke the KRM to draw his/her line in the sand and let's get on with our lives.</div> <div><br></div><div>~P.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:43 AM, Pug Bainter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pug@pug.net" target="_blank">pug@pug.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Tivar, no matter what we say, we aren't going to convince you that these are<br> a risk. While they have been deemed "safe" in the past, there is a history<br> of higher breakage with foils and epees than with heavy blades.<br> Unfortunately while I can't produce statistics, I can produce results from a<br> survey done in 2004 at<br> <a href="http://www.therotunda.net/rapier/survey-1/q11-light-blades.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.therotunda.net/rapier/survey-1/q11-light-blades.shtml</a> where<br> several kingdoms pointed out that foils and epees break more frequently than<br> heavy blades. While they are on our books, the majority of the fighters and<br> marshals don't know how to inspect them properly and know what makes them<br> unsafe now elevating our risk for a statistically insignificant usage.<br> <br> It is particularly disturbing to me that we're authorizing people in a<br> fighting style that people aren't actually using. If we don't eliminate the<br> blades, we probably need a reeducation and cleansing program of our current<br> participant and marshal list by actually enforcing the requirement to see<br> them show proficiency in the light blades.<br> <br> Ciao<br> <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Pug<br> </font></span><div class="im HOEnZb"><br></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div>-- <br>“Measure what is measurable, and make measurable what is not so.”<br>Galileo Galilei<br><br>Spanish Swordplay<br><a href="http://www.destreza.us/">http://www.destreza.us/</a><br> <br>Italian Swordplay<br><a href="http://www.viahup.com">http://www.viahup.com</a><br> </div></div></div> _______________________________________________<br>Ansteorra-rapier mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ansteorra-rapier@lists.ansteorra.org">Ansteorra-rapier@lists.ansteorra.org</a><br>http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-rapier-ansteorra.org<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>