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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>No, it's definitely supposed to have been made by
twisting the warps. If I recall correctly, the center is at
the top. I'm not sure how they manipulated the neck area to make the
opening for the head though. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Greetings, At first glance I would have said that the shirt was
crochet, it is beautiful, thank you for sharing.
theresa </DIV> <BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Carolle
Ternus <<A href="mailto:cternus@texas.net">cternus@texas.net</A>><BR>To:
Spinners, weavers, knitters and other Textile makers in Ansteorra <<A
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Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:02:37 -0600<BR>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-Textiles]
Sprang<BR><BR>
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id=AOLMsgPart_0_e7846e50-46f4-4926-a4b1-ccec15f04a55><PRE><TT>Here's a link to a picture of the Tonto shirt. Pretty cool.
<A href="http://www.statemuseum.arizona.edu/coll/peris2.shtml" target=_blank>http://www.statemuseum.arizona.edu/coll/peris2.shtml</A>
Yeah, Collingwood's book is pretty much required for the spranger. I
haven't seen Teague's work. I'll look for it.
Radegund
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From: "Beth Ellis" <<A href="mailto:killian%40awesomenet.net">killian@awesomenet.net</A>>
To: "Spinners, weavers, knitters and other Textile makers in Ansteorra"
<<A href="mailto:ansteorra-textiles%40ansteorra.org">ansteorra-textiles@ansteorra.org</A>>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-Textiles] Sprang
> Whups, sorry Radegund - I obviously did not finish reading your post
before
> writing mine. But since you brought it up (grin), they've found some very
> intricate shirts (yes, shirts!) identified as being constructed in sprang
> technique dating to the prehistoric American Southwest. I've seen
pictures
> of a couple - beautiful, intricate work. I expect the ancient Native
> American makers were twisting the yarns in some ways not common in the Old
> World, but apparently they were also using a lot of techniques that were
the
> same. Check out Lynn Teague's "Prehistoric Textiles of the American
> Southwest" for more info. Pretty interesting reading on all things
> spinning/weaving/string related in the prehistoric Southwest.
> Corrinne
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beth Ellis" <<A href="mailto:killian%40awesomenet.net">killian@awesomenet.net</A>>
> To: "Spinners, weavers, knitters and other Textile makers in Ansteorra"
> <<A href="mailto:ansteorra-textiles%40ansteorra.org">ansteorra-textiles@ansteorra.org</A>>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-Textiles] Sprang
>
>
> >A really great book to get is "Sprang" by Peter Collingwood. He includes
> >history as well as technique. Among many other places and times, sprang
> >hair nets have been found dating to prehistoric Northern Europe, and
later
> >on, the the Egyptian Copts were doing absolutely fantastic double
layered
> >sprang that allowed them to use color interplay as well as thread
> >manipulation. Collingwood addresses all that. Cool book.
> > Corrinne
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Carolle Ternus" <<A href="mailto:cternus%40texas.net">cternus@texas.net</A>>
> > To: "Spinners, weavers, knitters and other Textile makers in Ansteorra"
> > <<A href="mailto:ansteorra-textiles%40ansteorra.org">ansteorra-textiles@ansteorra.org</A>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:48 PM
> > Subject: [Ansteorra-Textiles] Sprang
> >
> >
> >> Sprang is an ancient and medieval technique for making stretchy fabric
by
> >> manipulating warp threads that are generally stretched on a frame of
some
> >> kind. Extant pieces from our period are from ancient Scandinavian and
> >> medieval Coptic eras. It was/is also in use in the Americas, Eastern
> >> Europe
> >> and India. The simplest sprang is formed by wrapping warp threads
around
> >> each other, cause fabric to be formed both above and below the working
> >> line.
> >> A common modern example of sprang is a chain linked fence. If you
trace
> >> the
> >> line of one of the metal 'threads', you'll notice it wraps around its
> >> neighboring 'thread,' first on one side, then the other. It can be
quite
> >> colorful and complex. Phiala has some good sprang articles at
> >> <A href="http://www.stringpage.com/sprang/sprang1.html" target=_blank>http://www.stringpage.com/sprang/sprang1.html</A>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Radegund
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: <<A href="mailto:theresathreadgi%40aol.com">theresathreadgi@aol.com</A>>
> >> To: <<A href="mailto:ansteorra-textiles%40ansteorra.org">ansteorra-textiles@ansteorra.org</A>>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:45 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-Textiles] Just joined!
> >>
> >>
> >>> PLease excuse my ignorance but what is sprang? Have never heard this
> >>> term for textiles. Thanks theresa
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Carolle Ternus <<A href="mailto:cternus%40texas.net">cternus@texas.net</A>>
> >>> Sent: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:22:32 -0600
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-Textiles] Just joined!
> >>>
> >>> I haven't done a sprang class in a while, so is anybody still doing
> >>> it, other than Gerita? How's it going?
> >>>
> >>> Time for a refresher?
> >>>
> >>> Radegund
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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