[Bards] Traditions - A Poem

[lanphier taylor]

Dear Philippa

Do you have any information that shows that bowing to the empty throne
was a historical custom? I know you bow at Catholic church but I didn't
think it was a real custom to bow to empty throne. What do the English do
in regards to their Thrones now? If it can be proven to be even a current
custom I will withdraw my objections.

Willow

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:43:49 -0500 "Susan Bowen" <philippa at ev1.net>
writes:
> I bow before the empty thrones, because I believe that is what
> Philippa
> Rookhaven would have done. I have always understood this to be more
> of a
> persona thing than an Ansteorran tradition. I see it as similar to
> the Norse
> personas who salute the throne by placing their fist over their
> heart rather
> than bowing. Perhaps the rhyme for this should cover the tradition
> in
> various cultures we study rather than assuming that there is an
> overarching
> Ansteorran tradition on the subject. That way people could come to a
> decision based on who they see themselves to be in the SCA.
> Pippa
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Anawyn at aol.com>
> To: <bards at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bards] Traditions - A Poem
>
>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > In a message dated 7/10/2002 4:09:58 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > BMartin at corp.prodigy.com writes:
> >
> >
> > > I therefore suggest that if we care to address bowing before the
> thrones, we
> > > teach the history given by Duchess Willow: we respectfully state
> that
> why
> > > it
> > > is a custom elsewhere, but why it is also not a custom here.
> > >
> >
> > But what makes a custom? I came into the SCA some 6 years ago, and
> followed
> > what everyone else was doing, which was to show respect to the
> "seat" of
> > authority, i.e., the Crown, even if it is not occupied. I agree
> with
> Darius,
> > I happen to feel that it is a touching gesture that is part of my
> custom
> as
> > well as others, and was not even aware anyone did anything else.
> > If I do it, and 5 other people do it...is it a custom? If several
> Baronies
> do
> > it? If someone disagrees whether it is custom, does that change
> what it
> is?
> > Are we going to run into some problems here if we do not all agree
> on what
> > exactly is customary? Are we going to vote at that juncture, or
> what do we
> > think we ought to do? Sounds like our work is more than just
> rhymin' up a
> > storm!
> > Anawyn
> >
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