[Bards] Need help with formats

John F. Hirling jhirling at houston.rr.com
Fri Nov 26 05:47:28 PST 2004


My preference is

--veni vidi fugi, vivo--

--ihon

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: GottfriedSBK 
  To: Jay Rudin ; Ansteorran Bardic list 
  Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 4:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [Bards] Need help with formats


  Then the italian would be more correct-- pardon the spelling?

  Veni, Vidi, Vicci, the end.

  Gottfried
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jay Rudin 
    To: Ansteorran Bardic list 
    Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 9:13 AM
    Subject: Re: [Bards] Need help with formats


    Mostly.  That line could be in an iambic tetrameter verse, but it contains one metrical variation.  It actually scans as:

    iamb, iamb, trochee, iamb
    (da-DUM, da-DUM; DUM-da, da DUM)

    This is a very common variation, useually at the beginning of a line or (as here) right after a pause halfway through the line.  This pause is called a ceasura.  The substitution is called a trochaic inversion.  There's one after the ceasura in the following line:

    To be, or not to be.  That is the question.
    (da-DUM, da-DUM, da-DUM. DUM-da, da-DUM-da)

    Note also the feminine ending on the last foot.

    Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: GottfriedSBK 
      To: Ansteorran Bardic list 
      Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 8:32 AM
      Subject: Re: [Bards] Need help with formats


      Iambic tetrameter would be:

      he came, he saw, conquered, the end.

      True?

      Gottfried


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