[Bards] Topic: Comparisons

Emily Minier Emily.Minier at DTAG.Com
Mon Dec 18 12:33:41 PST 2006

I have to agree with Grimolfr's comments.  As long as Northkeep is using this style of competition, I, too, will not compete.  All too often, I've been the one who is too polite to say "no".  And, frankly, I'd rather judge one bardic competition than 30 throughout the day. 
I also don't like having to "guess" who is in the competition and who isn't.  Are they available right now for a "bout"?  Can we find a judge? One we'll agree on?  
Just my 2 cents worth,


	From: bards-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:bards-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Valliquette
	Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 6:02 PM
	To: Ansteorran Bardic list
	Subject: Re: [Bards] Topic: Comparisons
	For discussion's sake, here's another perspective on the format Robert mentions: I participated in this style of competition once (at a Northkeep Castellan 4 years ago or so) and won't do so again. The reason? While it sounds fun in writing (and to be fair, some people seemed to enjoy it), the reality is that if you want to have any chance of winning, you have to spend a fair part of your day going around and, well, bothering people. "Hey, will you stop what you're doing and listen to the two of us perform and pick your favorite." Most people will do so unless they're terribly busy, but I get the distinct feeling that they're only doing so because they're too polite to say "no, I'd rather not." So, to me, this is a form of "attack bardic." Your mileage may vary, of course. 
	On 12/15/06, Robert Fitzmorgan <fitzmorgan at gmail.com> wrote: 

		     One format I have used approaches the martial tournament form.  The Bards in the competition all meet in the morning and are handed a number of tokens.  Throughout the day the Bards challenge one another and wager tokens on the outcome.  The Bards determine the nature of the challenge and choose a judge or judges acceptable to both of them.  At the end of the day the Bards meet again and the 3 or 4 Bards with the most tokens go into a final round that is judged by the retiring Bardic Champion and the local Nobles.  
		     The Barony of Northkeep often uses this format with the added provision that the final round must be an extemporaneous piece composed on site to a given topic.  
		     It's a lot of fun, you get as much bardic in as you want, and it involves the populace in the process of choosing the Bardic Champion.  It also allows the people competing for, or running,  the championship to do other things throughout the day without being tied to a particular place for a long period of time.  
		     A couple of things you want to look out for though.  Don't allow more than three bards in any particular challenge and don't allow wagering more than one token per bard per challenge.  This prevents  4 or 5 bards who are way behind at the end of the day from throwing all their tokens in one big multi-bard challenge and going from way behind to top of the list on one performance.  

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