[Bards] Kingdom A&S
drgngoddess_2k at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 6 07:48:27 PST 2007
Another thing to consider here is that Performing Arts does not always equal Bardic Arts.
For example one Lady of my house performed a horse ballet for Kingdom A&S one year. It was wonderful and a great display of a performing art, but I highly doubt she considered that performance bardic in nature because she does not see herself as a bard.
The performance art section of A&S offers the oportunity for people who do not consider themselves bards or to have a bardic art, to do things new and creative outside of the standard bardic relm. This might be seen in many forms of dance, perhaps a live painter, etc. things that may be welcomed in a bardic competition, but that people do not typically see as bardic.
----- Original Message ----
From: Jay Rudin <rudin at ev1.net>
To: Ansteorran Bardic list <bards at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:32:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Bards] Kingdom A&S
Clara asked some very good questions. I'll try to give a more-or-less
> Greetings unto the list!
> So, there are only three performance entries
> pre-registered for Kingdom A&S. That's a bit
Why is that depressing? How many potters will there be? How many armorers?
This number looks out of place because you are not comparing bards to
seamstresses or to jewelery makers, but to all other artists combined.
We had fifteen entered in Eisteddfod last month. Is there any other art
form that will have appreciably more than that in its biggest kingdom venue?
> Is there any particular reason? How would the bardic
> community feel about the possibility of merging
> Eisteddfod and Kingdom A&S?
It sounds so good in theory, doesn't it? I think everyone has considered
this at some time or another. But it doesn't stand up to careful analysis
of what it would actually entail. While they are both the kingdom's highest
venue for certain kinds of artists, these events are incompatible in intent,
flavor, and format.
First of all, it would detract from kingdom A&S for all people who want to
hear the bards and look at the creative works. At A&S, we all have an
opportunity to look at all the art from all the artists. If Eisteddfod is
there as well, then anybody who attends Eisteddfod misses the opportunity to
wander around and spend serious time at all the tables. Years ago, as Baron
of the Steppes, we tried combining the Steppes Artisan and Steppes bardic
competition at a single event. The result was that the baron never got to
see the works on tables, and the baroness never got to hear the bard's
performances. Observing each of these two events requires full-time focus.
As long as the judges want to see all the art presented, it can't be done.
Specifically, the judges who focus on the tables cannot spend all day
listening to the bards. It is currently possible for static arts Laurels to
attend the kingdom Eisteddfod. Hold it at the same time that they are
judging the other entries, and their Laurel duty would *require* them to
never watch the kingdom's premier bardic venue. It would require me to
never look at what is one the tables. Last Kingdom A&S, only two Laurels
saw people's performances. At last month's Eisteddfod, several more were
watching. At Stargate Yule, when they've had both together, the bardic
Laurels see the bards, and the static Laurels look over the tables.
Secondly, it means that the bards themselves cannot look at the artistic
works, and that artists who want to watch Eisteddfod cannot sit by their
tables getting feedback. It would cause a deeper division between the
artisans and the performers.
Thirdly, Kingdom Eisteddfod has its own history and its own traditions --
both period and Ansteorran. An Eisteddfod is an actual period event;
Kingdom A&S is an SCA-created modern science-fair-style event. I don't
object to that fact -- we did it because it's the best way we can come up
with to showcase the works of our artisans. But the event, by its very
nature, has no persona and no period ambiance -- and no art being done.
Performing to an audience is the authentic, period way of performing, and
the best way to judge it. But while putting a dress on a form or a scroll
on a table is the best way to judge them, that's not the way to use them in
medieval and Renaissance times. The essential diffeence is this. Bards
being judged are currently doing their art; artisans being judging are
sitting nexct to completed art they did before the event. Bards perform at
Eisteddfod, but seamstresses don't sew there. Throughout Eisteddfod, I am a
Renaissance bard, performing and listening to other bards. Throughout
Kingdom A&S, I am a 21st century re-enactor, sitting next to art I already
finished, or observing and judging re-enactment art. No resemblance.
Dumping traditions and persona in favor of a more mundane atmosphere is not
going to appeal to the sort of people who become bards.
Fourth, Kingdom A&S is a horrible venue for bards, because there is no
audience -- just the two or three judges. A good bard is feeding off the
audience and making adjustments throughout the performance. Performing for
judges alone isn't really performance; it's the equivalent of making a dress
that nobody will ever wear, or cooking food that nobody will ever eat.
By contrast, there were anywhere from thirty to fifty people listening to
the bards at kingdom Eisteddfod. At the worst, least attended Eisteddfods,
there has always been an audience -- people who are there just to hear you
perform. That is the number one thing bards want, and Kingdom A&S simply
doesn't provide it.
I have performed at Kingdom A&S -- once. I have no particular desire to do
so again. I have entered Eisteddfod many times, and will do so every time I
can. It's fun.
The fact is that Kingdom Eisteddfod was originally part of something the
bards created for themselves because the kingdom structures -- including
Kingdom A&S -- didn't serve the needs of the bardic community. It was
created by bards, supported by bards, run by bards. And it worked, and
grew. It serves the community as it is, in a way that Kingdom A&S doesn't
and never has. If it got folded into Kingdom A&S, within a few years the
bards would create a new venue that served their needs, created by bards,
supported by bards, run by bards.
Finally -- look at one salient fact. Three bards entered Kingdom A&S; while
fifteen bards entered Kingdom Eisteddfod. To support the bards, you don't
try to re-make the more popular venue into the less popular one.
Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
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