[Bards] Song Books

Cynthia Rogers wolfpaws at mac.com
Tue Jun 5 10:44:08 PDT 2007

Sigh. It is a feature of the modern world alright that you have to  
obtain permission from the record company who holds the copyright.  
Most of the companies have an online form for you to request  
permission. I have only had spotty luck with this for the Redwulf  
Songbook, but it does sometimes work.

I don't sell anything for profit and the whole thing is non-profit  
and amateur. So, if they would deign to answer me, they would say  
that distributing my songbook is okay. (The ones that have answered  
do say that.) But I'm such a small fish, that many of them don't  
deign to reply despite repeated forms being sent. In those cases, I  
file a copy of my request and the date, and note that the company  
never got back to me.  Mostly though, I've pruned out pieces that  
violate copyright that I can't get rights to reproduce.


On Jun 5, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Ken Theriot wrote:

> Amen Padraig!  Filk is the especially pernicious liability here.   
> While it
> is true that you may be able to write new words to some existing  
> tune and
> post those new words on line saying "sung to the tune of..."  It is  
> another
> thing entirely to post the tune itself.  That is a copyright  
> infringement.
> Additionally, any filk that changes only a few words, leaving a  
> majority of
> the original words (like most modern filks), cannot even have the  
> lyrics
> legally posted because that is called "plagiarism."
> Kenneth
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bards-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
> [mailto:bards-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Pádraig Ruad Ó
> Maolagáin
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:18 PM
> To: Ansteorran Bardic list
> Subject: Re: [Bards] Song Books
> Maggie,
> You need to be careful about how you distribute the recorded  
> version of
> the newcomers songbook due to legal issues.  Some of the songs are
> copyrighted property of the original composer/artist, and there are  
> some
> filks that fall under the same restriction for the tunes.  Hosting it
> online would probably not be a good idea.
> Padraig
> -- 
> Nunc est bibendum.
> ******************
> ******************
> Politicians prefer unarmed peasants.
> Genie Barrett wrote:
>> At 11:55 AM 6/4/2007, you wrote:
>>> The Ansteorran "Voices of the Star" volume I is available in PDF
>>> format from http://bard.ansteorra.org.  It should be in the files
>>> section I think.
>>> Alden
>> There is the newcomer's songbook as well, set up to be printed on  
>> 8x11
>> paper.
>> Oddly, I am only finding it easily here...
>> http://dragonsfire-tor.ansteorra.org/links.html
>> It is the .doc or .pdf links in the Bard Links section.
>> I have the tapes that accompany it, and my hubby has agreed to remove
>> hiss and wine and save them that way for me.  I am not sure if it
>> would be better to find someone who might host these on line, or if
>> we should just burn a cd or 40.
>> Any suggestions?
>> Maggie
>> Who would charge for the cost of the cd, of course.
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