[Bards] Bonwick News

Sun Apr 27 17:11:41 PDT 2008

>
> Hearty congratulations to Cier! I'm sorry I was not able to hear this
> obviously wonderful performance.

I would make one small correction... Bonwick does have a titled bard. Lord
Quill holds it currently.

Cheers
~Mea

Today's Topics:
>
>   1. News from Champions of Bonwick. (Cisco Cividanes)
>   Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:54:08 -0500
> From: "Cisco Cividanes" <engtrktwo at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Bards] News from Champions of Bonwick.
> To: mooneschadowe at yahoogroups.com,      "Ansteorran Bardic list"
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> This goes out to Mooneschadowe, with the appropriate echo out to all
> of the kingdom's bards.
>
> The Barony of Bonwick held a bardic competition today. By all accounts
> the competition was described as grueling, and past champions from
> several groups were included on the list.
>
> However, one person stepped forward and evidently took the title
> outright before an audience that included all of the landed nobles of
> the north as well as the crown.
>
> Nine year old Cier Barns (Liliana's Daughter), of the Provence of
> Mooneschadowe, bested twelve adult competitors so soundly that she had
> been forbidden by the landed nobles of the north  from entering into
> any of their children's bardic competition after this day.
>
> (note: I do not believe that Bonwick has an actual "titled" bard, but
> from what I have heard, the competition was as hard and demanding as
> any of the titled matches Lilas or Liliana have seen)
>
>
> Lord Ivo Blackhawk
> Province of Mooneschadowe
> Kingdom of Ansteorra
> "God Save the King!"
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 05:44:17 -0500
> From: "Liz Wilson" <ewilson618 at tx.rr.com>
> Subject: [Bards] Filking
> To: "Ansteorran Bardic list" <bards at lists.ansteorra.org>
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> I am new to the SCA and the Bards List but I love Bardic competitions and
> performances.  I'd like to try it myself although I am a very average
> singer.
> I probably could learn to tell stories.  I don't have much fear of public
> performance
> and speaking because, although I am now a stay at home mom, in mundane
> life
> I was an attorney for 15 years (and I'm still licensed).  If you can do
> appellate
> argument or argument in a courtroom when real money is at stake you can
> probably do Bardic (although not necessarily well!)
>
> At any rate,one of my questions relates to Filking.  If I Filk a melody,
> is it supposed
> to be a period melody with SCA related words/theme or a non period melody
> with
> SCA related words/theme? Or a period melody on any theme?
>
> If I'm performing at a Bardic competition and my persona is still being
> developed, do I have to stay in persona?  For example, if I compete at
> Springfaire, and my persona is 1315, can I do anything in period or am I
> supposed to limit myself to what would have been heard in Scotland in 1315
> (if
> anyone even knows what would have been heard!)  Can I just be kind of a
> generalized performer and do things in period from any time frame?
> What happens if I do something that is out of period (but not obviously
> so)?
>
> Also I am very familiar with repetoire from Scarborough Faire because I've
> been
> going for 20 plus years and I have a lot of recordings.  However these
> songs are
> not always in period.  For example, the words to Scotland the Brave, while
> lovely, were actually written in the 20th century, and yet this song is
> performed
> at Scarby.  Is it appropriate to perform at a Bardic competition or not?
>
> Any ideas on how I find out what is in period and what
> isn't for the Scarby or any other repetoire,
> and what WOULD be appropriate at a Bardic competition and what
> wouldn't?  I have a nice piece I am trying to prepare for Springfaire but
> I
> don't know how to find out if it is period, other than just trying to do
> some
> searches on the Internet about it to see what I can find out.
>
> Any advice to a new Bard, who is taking herself way too
> seriously, would be appreciated.
>
> Christianna (hope they won't laugh at me)
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:58:38 -0500
> From: Gerald of Leesville <gerald.of.leesville at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bards] Filking <of course it's a long reply!>
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> Good morning.
>
> Filking - it's what people do.  I've filked, just about everyone here has
> filked, and we are (in various stages of our careers) rather
> indiscriminate
> about it.  Choose the tune that lends itself to the lyrics you create.
> Think of it as practice for actual melodic composition.  Depending on the
> amount of work you want to put into this hobby, the hope is that
> eventually
> you will start composing original melodies to go with the lyrics.  For
> those
> who want to go a step further, research melodic rules of a certain portion
> of music history and try to emulate that.  In the end, do the things that
> bring joy while doing them.
>
> Staying in period - This is a hobby and you should do what you want to do.
> I cheated and created a persona for the late 1500s.  That way I can go
> through the various historical music repertoirs and claim them as
> historical
> research for my persona.  I play tunes from 11 century through, Irish
> tunes,
> pieces written from the past and current middle ages.  I'm a music slut,
> going so low as to volunteer to play "Hole In the Wall".  Others may urge
> you to aspire to greater heights.  I just urge people to increase their
> repetoire of memorized songs (got nothing against book reading, but unless
> it's done right, it ain't performing).
>
> Rennfair repetoir - The songs commonly sung at Renn Faires will get you
> started, and it's a lot of what most of the SCA public knows.  For many
> this
> is "good enough" and there's no need to learn a whole lot more.
> "Macyntire", even though Mistress Adelaide might be damned near alergic to
> it, is popular because a lot of people get to join in who may have no
> musical talent whatsoever.  It's not a song from the SCA periods, but it's
> fun to sing, fun to join in, and .... It's fun.  The interesting thing is
> that there is a LOT of good material within the time-stretch the SCA
> "period" covers.  It takes a little digging, a few questions asked here
> and
> there, but there's a treasure-trove full of historical songs and tunes
> about
> that can keep an audience spell-bound (favorite moment # 177: Stargate
> Yule
> bardic competition when a young lady performed the plainchant "Veni Veni
> Emanuel" and was able to silence the whole hall).
>
> Bardic competition - A lot of what you might perform will depend on what
> the
> current champion and their patrons require within the competitions.  As
> champion, I've gone from requiring different performance styles (singing,
> story-telling, recital, etc.) to sitting around a fire and judging from
> the
> best performances.  In each case, much of what I've used as a rule I took
> as
> cues from my patrons (the baron/baroness or seneschal).  Some will want a
> performer with a broad depth of styles, others wanted a good performer,
> hang
> the different styles approach.  To answer your question point-blank: If
> they
> request "period" pieces only, you're going to lose with "Scotland the
> Brave"
> or "Minstrel Boy" if the judges have any say in it, but "Miri it is" will
> work and "Star of the County Down" might.
>
> I've had a few good teachers, and I'll see if I can't get you an actual
> list
> of web-spaces you can go to, but one in particular - Cantaria
> (http://www.chivalry.com/cantaria/), is at least a starting point.  You
> will
> probably receive more advice, Christiana, than you will know what to do
> with.  The game I play will not necessarily fit your likes or dislikes.  I
> encourage people who are so inclined to perform.  The good ones will be
> asked to repeat what they do, or find something new, or be pointed toward
> a
> piece that might suit them (or not).  I advise performers to pick and
> choose
> from what they like to do, learn it, and keep learning new
> pieces.  Perform.
> If they have instrumental talent, I encourage them to perform more!  As to
> taking one's self too seriously, I would like to encourage you to take up
> the concept of failure and embrace it; make it a part of your philosphy.
> Because it will happen where you fail in a performance; especially if
> you're
> going from memorized pieces.  Remember that the worst that can happen is
> that they cut your pay, laugh about it, and keep going (Barrett's
> Privateers
> is not a historical piece, but it's a favorite sea shanty of mine, sung it
> a
> hundred times if I've sung it once.  On stage at the Mucky Duck, right up
> to
> the point where "Our cracked four pounders made an awful din," and the
> words
> left me.  No way to recover.  No words.  So I sang "La la la la lalala la
> la
> la..." and cut to the chorus and concluded with "That was Barrett's
> Privateers as sung by Janice Joplin."  Laughter and the crowd enjoyed it.
> Failure will happen. They won't crucify you.  You aren't getting paid for
> this gig.  Just do your best and drink your beer).
>
> In service to the dream with a song in my heart, I am
> HL Gerald of Leesville
> A bard of Stargate
> Kingdom: Ansteorra
>
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>
> From: bards-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
> [mailto:bards-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Liz Wilson
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 5:44 AM
> To: Ansteorran Bardic list
> Subject: [Bards] Filking
>
>
> I am new to the SCA and the Bards List but I love Bardic competitions and
> performances.  I'd like to try it myself although I am a very average
> singer.
> I probably could learn to tell stories.  I don't have much fear of public
> performance
> and speaking because, although I am now a stay at home mom, in mundane
> life
> I was an attorney for 15 years (and I'm still licensed).  If you can do
> appellate
> argument or argument in a courtroom when real money is at stake you can
> probably do Bardic (although not necessarily well!)
>
> At any rate,one of my questions relates to Filking.  If I Filk a melody,
> is
> it supposed
> to be a period melody with SCA related words/theme or a non period melody
> with
> SCA related words/theme? Or a period melody on any theme?
>
> If I'm performing at a Bardic competition and my persona is still being
> developed, do I have to stay in persona?  For example, if I compete at
> Springfaire, and my persona is 1315, can I do anything in period or am I
> supposed to limit myself to what would have been heard in Scotland in 1315
> (if
> anyone even knows what would have been heard!)  Can I just be kind of a
> generalized performer and do things in period from any time frame?
> What happens if I do something that is out of period (but not obviously
> so)?
>
> Also I am very familiar with repetoire from Scarborough Faire because I've
> been
> going for 20 plus years and I have a lot of recordings.  However these
> songs
> are
> not always in period.  For example, the words to Scotland the Brave, while
> lovely, were actually written in the 20th century, and yet this song is
> performed
> at Scarby.  Is it appropriate to perform at a Bardic competition or not?
>
> Any ideas on how I find out what is in period and what
> isn't for the Scarby or any other repetoire,
> and what WOULD be appropriate at a Bardic competition and what
> wouldn't?  I have a nice piece I am trying to prepare for Springfaire but
> I
> don't know how to find out if it is period, other than just trying to do
> some
> searches on the Internet about it to see what I can find out.
>
> Any advice to a new Bard, who is taking herself way too
> seriously, would be appreciated.
>
> Christianna (hope they won't laugh at me)
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Mea
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