From naturemakeswell at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 06:20:19 2011
From: naturemakeswell at gmail.com (Brett Chandler-Finch)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:20:19 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
Message-ID: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the breakdown for the schedule for Eisteddfod

9-10  Sign Up
11  First Round
12 Lunch
1 Second Round
2 third round

I would like your input for the final round of eisteddfod

How many and what potential topics should be included in the final
round My original idea was to have about 10-15 different topics that
could be drawn from the box.   However this may prove difficult for
some to prepare for that many  topics  It has been suggested that I
have 3-4 topics that would be in the list.    It would still be random
as to which topic you receive.  However,  there would be 2 hours
between when you receive the topic and when you perform the final
round.


Here is a starting list of Topics

War
Love
Honor
Food
Courage
Family
Money
Friendship
Strength
Celebration




-- 
---
Brett Chandler-Finch
The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
Austin, TX 78749
(512) 703-0669
naturemakeswell at gmail.com

From jhirling at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 07:58:27 2011
From: jhirling at gmail.com (John Hirling)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 09:58:27 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
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It's your call of course but one consideration might be whether you, in
your experience as Ansteorra's Premier Bard, found it important to be able
to think on the fly.  The more important you feel that is, the more
subjects you will want to include.  As for my preparation (and I offer this
advice as no cost - it's worth every penny), I'll prepare the bones of a
story and then utilize my time to shape it around whatever I pick.  If
there's time, I may try to shape it into a song or a poem.

~ihon
One person with passion is better than forty people merely interested."

? E. M. Forster


On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Brett Chandler-Finch <
naturemakeswell at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is the breakdown for the schedule for Eisteddfod
>
> 9-10  Sign Up
> 11  First Round
> 12 Lunch
> 1 Second Round
> 2 third round
>
> I would like your input for the final round of eisteddfod
>
> How many and what potential topics should be included in the final
> round My original idea was to have about 10-15 different topics that
> could be drawn from the box.   However this may prove difficult for
> some to prepare for that many  topics  It has been suggested that I
> have 3-4 topics that would be in the list.    It would still be random
> as to which topic you receive.  However,  there would be 2 hours
> between when you receive the topic and when you perform the final
> round.
>
>
> Here is a starting list of Topics
>
> War
> Love
> Honor
> Food
> Courage
> Family
> Money
> Friendship
> Strength
> Celebration
>
>
>
>
> --
> ---
> Brett Chandler-Finch
> The physician heals, Nature makes well.
>
> 8401 Treehouse Ln.
> Austin, TX 78749
> (512) 703-0669
> naturemakeswell at gmail.com
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From celtic_wolff at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  1 11:10:15 2011
From: celtic_wolff at yahoo.com (Beth)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:10:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
In-Reply-To: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1322766615.57769.YahooMailNeo@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The original Box of Doom, which I used when? stepped down, had at least one topic per each competitor. I wanted there to not be any repeats of topic so that each person was able to showcase their talents uniquely. i don't know if this helps or not,lol.
?
HL Elanor O'Ruark

"Little girls, this seems to say, Never stop upon your way. 
Never trust a stranger-friend; No one knows how it will end. 
As you're pretty, so be wise; Wolves may lurk in every guise. 
Handsome they may be, and kind, Gay, or charming never mind! 
Now, as then, 'tis simple truth... 
Sweetest tongue has sharpest tooth!"

From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
To: bards at lists.ansteorra.org 
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:20 AM
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod

Here is the breakdown for the schedule for Eisteddfod

9-10? Sign Up
11? First Round
12 Lunch
1 Second Round
2 third round

I would like your input for the final round of eisteddfod

How many and what potential topics should be included in the final
round My original idea was to have about 10-15 different topics that
could be drawn from the box.? However this may prove difficult for
some to prepare for that many? topics? It has been suggested that I
have 3-4 topics that would be in the list.? ? It would still be random
as to which topic you receive.? However,? there would be 2 hours
between when you receive the topic and when you perform the final
round.


Here is a starting list of Topics

War
Love
Honor
Food
Courage
Family

From maggegene at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 09:30:53 2011
From: maggegene at gmail.com (Genie Barrett)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 11:30:53 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
In-Reply-To: <1322766615.57769.YahooMailNeo@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>
	<1322766615.57769.YahooMailNeo@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJOMakCsAFXtw4aTHTBFXuSuFfvQrRVvLH62b=VdObsPWXnOZA@mail.gmail.com>

I like this idea, I liked it then, too.

I also feel, that you shouldn't tell what topics are in there.  If you are
looking for flexibility and spontaneity, then you should make it a
surprise. GRIN

HL Magge MacPherson

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Beth <celtic_wolff at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The original Box of Doom, which I used when  stepped down, had at least
> one topic per each competitor. I wanted there to not be any repeats of
> topic so that each person was able to showcase their talents uniquely. i
> don't know if this helps or not,lol.
>
> HL Elanor O'Ruark
>
>
> From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
> To: bards at lists.ansteorra.org
> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:20 AM
> Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
>
> Here is the breakdown for the schedule for Eisteddfod
>
> 9-10  Sign Up
> 11  First Round
> 12 Lunch
> 1 Second Round
> 2 third round
>
> I would like your input for the final round of eisteddfod
>

From rudin at peoplepc.com  Tue Dec  6 11:45:55 2011
From: rudin at peoplepc.com (Jay Rudin)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:45:55 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
Message-ID: <16526532.1323200756368.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Magge wrote:

>I also feel, that you shouldn't tell what topics are in there.  If you are
>looking for flexibility and spontaneity, then you should make it a
>surprise. GRIN

Making it harder to enter gives a greater challenge, and fewer entrants. While I enjoy challenging tasks, we've only had 3-5 entrants lately. I strongly suggest that now is not the time to introduce difficulties that will chase people away.

Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin

________________________________________
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
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From maggegene at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 17:58:43 2011
From: maggegene at gmail.com (Genie Barrett)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:58:43 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
In-Reply-To: <16526532.1323200756368.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <16526532.1323200756368.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAJOMakChtizRiKTUa56nritQ2eHmAchQGQB5c_O-SH34dStA5g@mail.gmail.com>

LOL Master Robin, you are totally right, but the idea of the box
presupposes a quest for flexibility.

I guess it's what the King/Kingdom wants in their bard.  Is the ability to
come up with something completely random and off the cuff one of the
preferred abilities?

Magge

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Magge wrote:
>
> >I also feel, that you shouldn't tell what topics are in there.  If you are
> >looking for flexibility and spontaneity, then you should make it a
> >surprise. GRIN
>
> Making it harder to enter gives a greater challenge, and fewer entrants.
> While I enjoy challenging tasks, we've only had 3-5 entrants lately. I
> strongly suggest that now is not the time to introduce difficulties that
> will chase people away.
>
> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
>
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From naturemakeswell at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 12:17:33 2011
From: naturemakeswell at gmail.com (Brett Chandler-Finch)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 14:17:33 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Bards Digest, Vol 66, Issue 6
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1323460831.16357.bards-ansteorra.org@lists.ansteorra.org>
References: <mailman.1.1323460831.16357.bards-ansteorra.org@lists.ansteorra.org>
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After speaking with several individuals including  some who are choral
musicians outside of the SCA  it seems that the idea of having to know
 possibility of 10-15 different topic pieces would be daunting.
Therefore  I am limiting the topics for the last round to  4

War
Love
Chivalry
Celebration

There will be a repeat of themes in the final round, but this will
still allow for enough variety that it will not become too redundant.


-- 
---
Brett Chandler-Finch
The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
Austin, TX 78749
(512) 703-0669
naturemakeswell at gmail.com

From alden_drake at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 12 05:48:32 2011
From: alden_drake at sbcglobal.net (Alden Drake)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:48:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] Eiateddfod format
In-Reply-To: <CAFLy5JygrgEoaDTgCUdtiY=v644r-yFKjeTSc23rEkBKU64tOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFLy5JygrgEoaDTgCUdtiY=v644r-yFKjeTSc23rEkBKU64tOA@mail.gmail.com>
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For the first round, does "period piece" also include pieces in period style?

Also, with the Box of Doom being reduced to only 4 topics, is it necessary to 
have a lunch break scheduled in between rounds?? I'd suspect more performers 
will be coming armed with a piece for each theme in advance, and so probably 
won't need a long break to see what they have in their repertoire to suit a 
topic (which is more likely when there are numerous topics in the Box of Doom).? 
I also don't know how other performers feel about eating before/during a 
performance, but I tend to perfer eating after I'm done. :)

Cheers,
Alden

?



________________________________
From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
To: "bards at lists.ansteorra.org" <bards at lists.ansteorra.org>; 
"ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org" <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tue, November 8, 2011 2:48:07 PM
Subject: [Bards] Eiateddfod format

Greetings.? Eisteddfod will soon be upon us.? It will be held in
conjunction with. Steppes 12th night. On Saturday Jan. 7th.? The exact
time will be posted on the event website.

Here is the format that will be used.? There will be 3 rounds

1st round.? Period piece.? Documentation strongly suggested

2nd round.? Sca or Ansteorra specific piece

3rd round. Box of Doom.? After the 1st round each competitor will pull a
subject from a box.? The performance piece will be in some way related to
the topic.? A list of potential topics will be published closer to the
event.

An overall score of all pieces and their Majesties choices will determine
the victor.

It has been an honor serving as your Premier Bard. I look forward to seeing
the next Bard.

YIS
Goldweard
Premier Bard.
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From maggegene at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 08:43:54 2011
From: maggegene at gmail.com (Genie Barrett)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:43:54 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Eiateddfod format
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References: <CAFLy5JygrgEoaDTgCUdtiY=v644r-yFKjeTSc23rEkBKU64tOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1323697712.1020.YahooMailRC@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJOMakAgG7LXmAGJoYqU5dQaFRkRNwS6t-Bg45qR+TfmP2DDjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, eating before a performance can be rather detrimental.  GRIN

Magge

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Alden Drake <alden_drake at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> For the first round, does "period piece" also include pieces in period
> style?
>
> Also, with the Box of Doom being reduced to only 4 topics, is it necessary
> to
> have a lunch break scheduled in between rounds?  I'd suspect more
> performers
> will be coming armed with a piece for each theme in advance, and so
> probably
> won't need a long break to see what they have in their repertoire to suit a
> topic (which is more likely when there are numerous topics in the Box of
> Doom).
> I also don't know how other performers feel about eating before/during a
> performance, but I tend to perfer eating after I'm done. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Alden
>
>

From naturemakeswell at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 12:28:59 2011
From: naturemakeswell at gmail.com (Brett Chandler-Finch)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:28:59 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Bards Digest, Vol 66, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1323720030.12523.bards-ansteorra.org@lists.ansteorra.org>
References: <mailman.1.1323720030.12523.bards-ansteorra.org@lists.ansteorra.org>
Message-ID: <CAFLy5Jw=yD7DnOcEr=0fh3R5DMnGPV99HMB+=L9QqRNQREjHKg@mail.gmail.com>

The lunch time  was to allow nobles to eat (I think nobles lunch is
around 12:30)    There are about 10 entrants so far.    If we start at
1  we only have 2 hours to run through the gauntlet.    It can be done
but will be extremely rushed.   Court is at 4  and we need an hour to
finish the judging scroll etc.  so it makes for a early day. (sorry my
comma button isn't working.)

As far as period style  I would include that but not necessarily a sca
specific piece in period style.

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> For the first round, does "period piece" also include pieces in period style?
>
> Also, with the Box of Doom being reduced to only 4 topics, is it necessary to
> have a lunch break scheduled in between rounds?? I'd suspect more performers
> will be coming armed with a piece for each theme in advance, and so probably
> won't need a long break to see what they have in their repertoire to suit a
> topic (which is more likely when there are numerous topics in the Box of Doom).?
> I also don't know how other performers feel about eating before/during a
> performance, but I tend to perfer eating after I'm done. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Alden
>
> ?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
> To: "bards at lists.ansteorra.org" <bards at lists.ansteorra.org>;
> "ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org" <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Tue, November 8, 2011 2:48:07 PM
> Subject: [Bards] Eiateddfod format
>
> Greetings.? Eisteddfod will soon be upon us.? It will be held in
> conjunction with. Steppes 12th night. On Saturday Jan. 7th.? The exact
> time will be posted on the event website.
>
> Here is the format that will be used.? There will be 3 rounds
>
> 1st round.? Period piece.? Documentation strongly suggested
>
> 2nd round.? Sca or Ansteorra specific piece
>
> 3rd round. Box of Doom.? After the 1st round each competitor will pull a
> subject from a box.? The performance piece will be in some way related to
> the topic.? A list of potential topics will be published closer to the
> event.
>
> An overall score of all pieces and their Majesties choices will determine
> the victor.
>
> It has been an honor serving as your Premier Bard. I look forward to seeing
> the next Bard.
>
> YIS
> Goldweard
> Premier Bard.
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:43:54 -0600
> From: Genie Barrett <maggegene at gmail.com>
> To: Ansteorran Bardic list <bards at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [Bards] Eiateddfod format
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>
> Yes, eating before a performance can be rather detrimental. ?GRIN
>
> Magge
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Alden Drake <alden_drake at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>> For the first round, does "period piece" also include pieces in period
>> style?
>>
>> Also, with the Box of Doom being reduced to only 4 topics, is it necessary
>> to
>> have a lunch break scheduled in between rounds? ?I'd suspect more
>> performers
>> will be coming armed with a piece for each theme in advance, and so
>> probably
>> won't need a long break to see what they have in their repertoire to suit a
>> topic (which is more likely when there are numerous topics in the Box of
>> Doom).
>> I also don't know how other performers feel about eating before/during a
>> performance, but I tend to perfer eating after I'm done. :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alden
>>
>>
>
>
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The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
Austin, TX 78749
(512) 703-0669
naturemakeswell at gmail.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:03:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] Fwd: Look what i found...
Message-ID: <1323767027.9360.androidMobile@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

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From naturemakeswell at gmail.com  Sun Dec 25 02:28:14 2011
From: naturemakeswell at gmail.com (Brett Chandler-Finch)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 04:28:14 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
Message-ID: <CAFLy5JwEAB-ULPFS--_us8SpgrMWkpYaPUW9_vqDSAYd3FpruQ@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings fellow bards,

It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that the yellow and
black bard cloak was destroyed.    I took it to the dry cleaners to
have it cleaned and pressed for Eisteddfod.   The dry cleaners ruined
the cloak.   There are stains all over it.   They claim the black bled
onto the yellow, however the stains are all over the cloak and I am
beginning to believe they may have damaged it in some other way.
The dry cleaner was unable to repair the damage.  I had the cloak
cleaned last year with no problems.  I am currently looking into legal
issues to recover damages for the cloak.

Though I did nothing wrong, I still feel horribly guilty for taking
the cloak to the cleaners at all as it was perfectly fine and did not
truly need to be cleaned.   I will be having a new cloak built,
however it will not be ready in time for Eisteddfod. I will get it to
the new champion when it is completed.   We still have the original
cloak.

I would like your input into the design for the new cloak.   I am
looking at making the cloak out of a lighter material as the cloak was
a bit warm especially when standing in court.   The award consitution
states that the cloak is "A cloak of many colors bearing the badge of
the Premier Bard of Ansteorra on the back"    Do we wish to have a
multicolored cloak built or a yellow and black cloak built.  another
option would be a yellow and black cloak with a multicolored trim
around the edges.

Again I am sorry for having failed in my duties to protect the regalia.


Goldweard of St. Golias

Premier Bard


-- 
---
Brett Chandler-Finch
The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
Austin, TX 78749
(512) 703-0669
naturemakeswell at gmail.com

From gwynethb63 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 25 07:27:10 2011
From: gwynethb63 at yahoo.com (gail young)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 07:27:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
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Accidents happen.? We do what we think is best and deal with the results.
I am sure the new one will be wonderful.
gwyneth

From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
To: bards at lists.ansteorra.org 
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 4:28 AM
Subject: [Bards] Sad News

Greetings fellow bards,

It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that the yellow and
black bard cloak was destroyed.? ? I took it to the dry cleaners to
have it cleaned and pressed for Eisteddfod.? The dry cleaners ruined
the cloak.? There are stains all over it.? They claim the black bled
onto the yellow, however the stains are all over the cloak and I am
beginning to believe they may have damaged it in some other way.
The dry cleaner was unable to repair the damage.? I had the cloak
cleaned last year with no problems.? I am currently looking into legal
issues to recover damages for the cloak.

Though I did nothing wrong, I still feel horribly guilty for taking
the cloak to the cleaners at all as it was perfectly fine and did not
truly need to be cleaned.? I will be having a new cloak built,
however it will not be ready in time for Eisteddfod. I will get it to
the new champion when it is completed.? We still have the original
cloak.

I would like your input into the design for the new cloak.? I am
looking at making the cloak out of a lighter material as the cloak was
a bit warm especially when standing in court.? The award consitution
states that the cloak is "A cloak of many colors bearing the badge of
the Premier Bard of Ansteorra on the back"? ? Do we wish to have a
multicolored cloak built or a yellow and black cloak built.? another
option would be a yellow and black cloak with a multicolored trim
around the edges.

Again I am sorry for having failed in my duties to protect the regalia.


Goldweard of St. Golias

Premier Bard


-- 
---
Brett Chandler-Finch
The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
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From rudin at peoplepc.com  Sun Dec 25 07:46:44 2011
From: rudin at peoplepc.com (Jay Rudin)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:46:44 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
Message-ID: <5440445.1324828004919.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

If there is a single day in the year to be loving and forgiving, that day is today.

The cloak was wonderful - but it was also merely an object. Premier Bard is an idea, a focus, an inspiration. You have left no stains or damage to fix.

Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin


-----Original Message-----
>From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 25, 2011 4:28 AM
>To: bards at lists.ansteorra.org
>Subject: [Bards] Sad News
>
>Greetings fellow bards,
>
>It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that the yellow and
>black bard cloak was destroyed.    I took it to the dry cleaners to
>have it cleaned and pressed for Eisteddfod.   The dry cleaners ruined
>the cloak.   There are stains all over it.   They claim the black bled
>onto the yellow, however the stains are all over the cloak and I am
>beginning to believe they may have damaged it in some other way.
>The dry cleaner was unable to repair the damage.  I had the cloak
>cleaned last year with no problems.  I am currently looking into legal
>issues to recover damages for the cloak.
>
>Though I did nothing wrong, I still feel horribly guilty for taking
>the cloak to the cleaners at all as it was perfectly fine and did not
>truly need to be cleaned.   I will be having a new cloak built,
>however it will not be ready in time for Eisteddfod. I will get it to
>the new champion when it is completed.   We still have the original
>cloak.
>
>I would like your input into the design for the new cloak.   I am
>looking at making the cloak out of a lighter material as the cloak was
>a bit warm especially when standing in court.   The award consitution
>states that the cloak is "A cloak of many colors bearing the badge of
>the Premier Bard of Ansteorra on the back"    Do we wish to have a
>multicolored cloak built or a yellow and black cloak built.  another
>option would be a yellow and black cloak with a multicolored trim
>around the edges.
>
>Again I am sorry for having failed in my duties to protect the regalia.
>
>
>Goldweard of St. Golias
>
>Premier Bard
>
>
>-- 
>---
>Brett Chandler-Finch
>The physician heals, Nature makes well.
>
>8401 Treehouse Ln.
>Austin, TX 78749
>(512) 703-0669
>naturemakeswell at gmail.com
>_______________________________________________
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>Bards at lists.ansteorra.org
>http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/bards-ansteorra.org


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From michael.silverhands at gmail.com  Sun Dec 25 08:08:35 2011
From: michael.silverhands at gmail.com (Michael Silverhands)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:08:35 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
In-Reply-To: <5440445.1324828004919.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <5440445.1324828004919.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CADrVkduA=i=Rp56x6VNedMX=QFdG745gF-Lrxz3CE6+=ZpM+JQ@mail.gmail.com>

What Robin said. Peace and forgiveness be yours this day -- of others,
as well as yourself.

Michael Silverhands

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> If there is a single day in the year to be loving and forgiving, that day is today.
>
> The cloak was wonderful - but it was also merely an object. Premier Bard is an idea, a focus, an inspiration. You have left no stains or damage to fix.
>
> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
>

From maggegene at gmail.com  Sun Dec 25 16:34:05 2011
From: maggegene at gmail.com (Genie Barrett)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:34:05 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
In-Reply-To: <CADrVkduA=i=Rp56x6VNedMX=QFdG745gF-Lrxz3CE6+=ZpM+JQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5440445.1324828004919.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<CADrVkduA=i=Rp56x6VNedMX=QFdG745gF-Lrxz3CE6+=ZpM+JQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJOMakCNX7y=a1WVSNfss2bKi63udS7dXeSxKB0mzyrfN7FsMA@mail.gmail.com>

I also have no hard feelings or anger. Life truly happens, and there isn't
much we can do about it.

Contact me privately, if you wish, I know who designed and made this cloak.
Magge

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Michael Silverhands <
michael.silverhands at gmail.com> wrote:

> What Robin said. Peace and forgiveness be yours this day -- of others,
> as well as yourself.
>
> Michael Silverhands
>
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> > If there is a single day in the year to be loving and forgiving, that
> day is today.
> >
> > The cloak was wonderful - but it was also merely an object. Premier Bard
> is an idea, a focus, an inspiration. You have left no stains or damage to
> fix.
> >
> > Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
> >
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From naturemakeswell at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 06:20:19 2011
From: naturemakeswell at gmail.com (Brett Chandler-Finch)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:20:19 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
Message-ID: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the breakdown for the schedule for Eisteddfod

9-10  Sign Up
11  First Round
12 Lunch
1 Second Round
2 third round

I would like your input for the final round of eisteddfod

How many and what potential topics should be included in the final
round My original idea was to have about 10-15 different topics that
could be drawn from the box.   However this may prove difficult for
some to prepare for that many  topics  It has been suggested that I
have 3-4 topics that would be in the list.    It would still be random
as to which topic you receive.  However,  there would be 2 hours
between when you receive the topic and when you perform the final
round.


Here is a starting list of Topics

War
Love
Honor
Food
Courage
Family
Money
Friendship
Strength
Celebration




-- 
---
Brett Chandler-Finch
The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
Austin, TX 78749
(512) 703-0669
naturemakeswell at gmail.com


From jhirling at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 07:58:27 2011
From: jhirling at gmail.com (John Hirling)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 09:58:27 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
In-Reply-To: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGJRBOu_qZVKBJ1_A7VqP71rUcbF1uaTSk4PNQ7wqiGZUsLaEw@mail.gmail.com>

It's your call of course but one consideration might be whether you, in
your experience as Ansteorra's Premier Bard, found it important to be able
to think on the fly.  The more important you feel that is, the more
subjects you will want to include.  As for my preparation (and I offer this
advice as no cost - it's worth every penny), I'll prepare the bones of a
story and then utilize my time to shape it around whatever I pick.  If
there's time, I may try to shape it into a song or a poem.

~ihon
One person with passion is better than forty people merely interested."

? E. M. Forster


On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Brett Chandler-Finch <
naturemakeswell at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is the breakdown for the schedule for Eisteddfod
>
> 9-10  Sign Up
> 11  First Round
> 12 Lunch
> 1 Second Round
> 2 third round
>
> I would like your input for the final round of eisteddfod
>
> How many and what potential topics should be included in the final
> round My original idea was to have about 10-15 different topics that
> could be drawn from the box.   However this may prove difficult for
> some to prepare for that many  topics  It has been suggested that I
> have 3-4 topics that would be in the list.    It would still be random
> as to which topic you receive.  However,  there would be 2 hours
> between when you receive the topic and when you perform the final
> round.
>
>
> Here is a starting list of Topics
>
> War
> Love
> Honor
> Food
> Courage
> Family
> Money
> Friendship
> Strength
> Celebration
>
>
>
>
> --
> ---
> Brett Chandler-Finch
> The physician heals, Nature makes well.
>
> 8401 Treehouse Ln.
> Austin, TX 78749
> (512) 703-0669
> naturemakeswell at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Bards mailing list
> Bards at lists.ansteorra.org
> http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/bards-ansteorra.org
>


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From celtic_wolff at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  1 11:10:15 2011
From: celtic_wolff at yahoo.com (Beth)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:10:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
In-Reply-To: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>
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The original Box of Doom, which I used when? stepped down, had at least one topic per each competitor. I wanted there to not be any repeats of topic so that each person was able to showcase their talents uniquely. i don't know if this helps or not,lol.
?
HL Elanor O'Ruark

"Little girls, this seems to say, Never stop upon your way. 
Never trust a stranger-friend; No one knows how it will end. 
As you're pretty, so be wise; Wolves may lurk in every guise. 
Handsome they may be, and kind, Gay, or charming never mind! 
Now, as then, 'tis simple truth... 
Sweetest tongue has sharpest tooth!"

From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
To: bards at lists.ansteorra.org 
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:20 AM
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod

Here is the breakdown for the schedule for Eisteddfod

9-10? Sign Up
11? First Round
12 Lunch
1 Second Round
2 third round

I would like your input for the final round of eisteddfod

How many and what potential topics should be included in the final
round My original idea was to have about 10-15 different topics that
could be drawn from the box.? However this may prove difficult for
some to prepare for that many? topics? It has been suggested that I
have 3-4 topics that would be in the list.? ? It would still be random
as to which topic you receive.? However,? there would be 2 hours
between when you receive the topic and when you perform the final
round.


Here is a starting list of Topics

War
Love
Honor
Food
Courage
Family


From maggegene at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 09:30:53 2011
From: maggegene at gmail.com (Genie Barrett)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 11:30:53 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
In-Reply-To: <1322766615.57769.YahooMailNeo@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>
	<1322766615.57769.YahooMailNeo@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJOMakCsAFXtw4aTHTBFXuSuFfvQrRVvLH62b=VdObsPWXnOZA@mail.gmail.com>

I like this idea, I liked it then, too.

I also feel, that you shouldn't tell what topics are in there.  If you are
looking for flexibility and spontaneity, then you should make it a
surprise. GRIN

HL Magge MacPherson

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Beth <celtic_wolff at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The original Box of Doom, which I used when  stepped down, had at least
> one topic per each competitor. I wanted there to not be any repeats of
> topic so that each person was able to showcase their talents uniquely. i
> don't know if this helps or not,lol.
>
> HL Elanor O'Ruark
>
>
> From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
> To: bards at lists.ansteorra.org
> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:20 AM
> Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
>
> Here is the breakdown for the schedule for Eisteddfod
>
> 9-10  Sign Up
> 11  First Round
> 12 Lunch
> 1 Second Round
> 2 third round
>
> I would like your input for the final round of eisteddfod
>


From rudin at peoplepc.com  Tue Dec  6 11:45:55 2011
From: rudin at peoplepc.com (Jay Rudin)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:45:55 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
Message-ID: <16526532.1323200756368.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Magge wrote:

>I also feel, that you shouldn't tell what topics are in there.  If you are
>looking for flexibility and spontaneity, then you should make it a
>surprise. GRIN

Making it harder to enter gives a greater challenge, and fewer entrants. While I enjoy challenging tasks, we've only had 3-5 entrants lately. I strongly suggest that now is not the time to introduce difficulties that will chase people away.

Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin

________________________________________
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From maggegene at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 17:58:43 2011
From: maggegene at gmail.com (Genie Barrett)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:58:43 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
In-Reply-To: <16526532.1323200756368.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <16526532.1323200756368.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAJOMakChtizRiKTUa56nritQ2eHmAchQGQB5c_O-SH34dStA5g@mail.gmail.com>

LOL Master Robin, you are totally right, but the idea of the box
presupposes a quest for flexibility.

I guess it's what the King/Kingdom wants in their bard.  Is the ability to
come up with something completely random and off the cuff one of the
preferred abilities?

Magge

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Magge wrote:
>
> >I also feel, that you shouldn't tell what topics are in there.  If you are
> >looking for flexibility and spontaneity, then you should make it a
> >surprise. GRIN
>
> Making it harder to enter gives a greater challenge, and fewer entrants.
> While I enjoy challenging tasks, we've only had 3-5 entrants lately. I
> strongly suggest that now is not the time to introduce difficulties that
> will chase people away.
>
> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
>
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From naturemakeswell at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 12:17:33 2011
From: naturemakeswell at gmail.com (Brett Chandler-Finch)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 14:17:33 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Bards Digest, Vol 66, Issue 6
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1323460831.16357.bards-ansteorra.org@lists.ansteorra.org>
References: <mailman.1.1323460831.16357.bards-ansteorra.org@lists.ansteorra.org>
Message-ID: <CAFLy5Jz01YV5VpkCWwAaDMTr+qhO0hU-5==pvh9V0acop0E2fg@mail.gmail.com>

After speaking with several individuals including  some who are choral
musicians outside of the SCA  it seems that the idea of having to know
 possibility of 10-15 different topic pieces would be daunting.
Therefore  I am limiting the topics for the last round to  4

War
Love
Chivalry
Celebration

There will be a repeat of themes in the final round, but this will
still allow for enough variety that it will not become too redundant.


-- 
---
Brett Chandler-Finch
The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
Austin, TX 78749
(512) 703-0669
naturemakeswell at gmail.com


From alden_drake at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 12 05:48:32 2011
From: alden_drake at sbcglobal.net (Alden Drake)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:48:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] Eiateddfod format
In-Reply-To: <CAFLy5JygrgEoaDTgCUdtiY=v644r-yFKjeTSc23rEkBKU64tOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFLy5JygrgEoaDTgCUdtiY=v644r-yFKjeTSc23rEkBKU64tOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1323697712.1020.YahooMailRC@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

For the first round, does "period piece" also include pieces in period style?

Also, with the Box of Doom being reduced to only 4 topics, is it necessary to 
have a lunch break scheduled in between rounds?? I'd suspect more performers 
will be coming armed with a piece for each theme in advance, and so probably 
won't need a long break to see what they have in their repertoire to suit a 
topic (which is more likely when there are numerous topics in the Box of Doom).? 
I also don't know how other performers feel about eating before/during a 
performance, but I tend to perfer eating after I'm done. :)

Cheers,
Alden

?



________________________________
From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
To: "bards at lists.ansteorra.org" <bards at lists.ansteorra.org>; 
"ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org" <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tue, November 8, 2011 2:48:07 PM
Subject: [Bards] Eiateddfod format

Greetings.? Eisteddfod will soon be upon us.? It will be held in
conjunction with. Steppes 12th night. On Saturday Jan. 7th.? The exact
time will be posted on the event website.

Here is the format that will be used.? There will be 3 rounds

1st round.? Period piece.? Documentation strongly suggested

2nd round.? Sca or Ansteorra specific piece

3rd round. Box of Doom.? After the 1st round each competitor will pull a
subject from a box.? The performance piece will be in some way related to
the topic.? A list of potential topics will be published closer to the
event.

An overall score of all pieces and their Majesties choices will determine
the victor.

It has been an honor serving as your Premier Bard. I look forward to seeing
the next Bard.

YIS
Goldweard
Premier Bard.
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From maggegene at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 08:43:54 2011
From: maggegene at gmail.com (Genie Barrett)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:43:54 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Eiateddfod format
In-Reply-To: <1323697712.1020.YahooMailRC@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <CAFLy5JygrgEoaDTgCUdtiY=v644r-yFKjeTSc23rEkBKU64tOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1323697712.1020.YahooMailRC@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJOMakAgG7LXmAGJoYqU5dQaFRkRNwS6t-Bg45qR+TfmP2DDjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, eating before a performance can be rather detrimental.  GRIN

Magge

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Alden Drake <alden_drake at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> For the first round, does "period piece" also include pieces in period
> style?
>
> Also, with the Box of Doom being reduced to only 4 topics, is it necessary
> to
> have a lunch break scheduled in between rounds?  I'd suspect more
> performers
> will be coming armed with a piece for each theme in advance, and so
> probably
> won't need a long break to see what they have in their repertoire to suit a
> topic (which is more likely when there are numerous topics in the Box of
> Doom).
> I also don't know how other performers feel about eating before/during a
> performance, but I tend to perfer eating after I'm done. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Alden
>
>


From naturemakeswell at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 12:28:59 2011
From: naturemakeswell at gmail.com (Brett Chandler-Finch)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:28:59 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Bards Digest, Vol 66, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1323720030.12523.bards-ansteorra.org@lists.ansteorra.org>
References: <mailman.1.1323720030.12523.bards-ansteorra.org@lists.ansteorra.org>
Message-ID: <CAFLy5Jw=yD7DnOcEr=0fh3R5DMnGPV99HMB+=L9QqRNQREjHKg@mail.gmail.com>

The lunch time  was to allow nobles to eat (I think nobles lunch is
around 12:30)    There are about 10 entrants so far.    If we start at
1  we only have 2 hours to run through the gauntlet.    It can be done
but will be extremely rushed.   Court is at 4  and we need an hour to
finish the judging scroll etc.  so it makes for a early day. (sorry my
comma button isn't working.)

As far as period style  I would include that but not necessarily a sca
specific piece in period style.

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> For the first round, does "period piece" also include pieces in period style?
>
> Also, with the Box of Doom being reduced to only 4 topics, is it necessary to
> have a lunch break scheduled in between rounds?? I'd suspect more performers
> will be coming armed with a piece for each theme in advance, and so probably
> won't need a long break to see what they have in their repertoire to suit a
> topic (which is more likely when there are numerous topics in the Box of Doom).?
> I also don't know how other performers feel about eating before/during a
> performance, but I tend to perfer eating after I'm done. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Alden
>
> ?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
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> To: "bards at lists.ansteorra.org" <bards at lists.ansteorra.org>;
> "ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org" <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Tue, November 8, 2011 2:48:07 PM
> Subject: [Bards] Eiateddfod format
>
> Greetings.? Eisteddfod will soon be upon us.? It will be held in
> conjunction with. Steppes 12th night. On Saturday Jan. 7th.? The exact
> time will be posted on the event website.
>
> Here is the format that will be used.? There will be 3 rounds
>
> 1st round.? Period piece.? Documentation strongly suggested
>
> 2nd round.? Sca or Ansteorra specific piece
>
> 3rd round. Box of Doom.? After the 1st round each competitor will pull a
> subject from a box.? The performance piece will be in some way related to
> the topic.? A list of potential topics will be published closer to the
> event.
>
> An overall score of all pieces and their Majesties choices will determine
> the victor.
>
> It has been an honor serving as your Premier Bard. I look forward to seeing
> the next Bard.
>
> YIS
> Goldweard
> Premier Bard.
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> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:43:54 -0600
> From: Genie Barrett <maggegene at gmail.com>
> To: Ansteorran Bardic list <bards at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [Bards] Eiateddfod format
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> Yes, eating before a performance can be rather detrimental. ?GRIN
>
> Magge
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Alden Drake <alden_drake at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>> For the first round, does "period piece" also include pieces in period
>> style?
>>
>> Also, with the Box of Doom being reduced to only 4 topics, is it necessary
>> to
>> have a lunch break scheduled in between rounds? ?I'd suspect more
>> performers
>> will be coming armed with a piece for each theme in advance, and so
>> probably
>> won't need a long break to see what they have in their repertoire to suit a
>> topic (which is more likely when there are numerous topics in the Box of
>> Doom).
>> I also don't know how other performers feel about eating before/during a
>> performance, but I tend to perfer eating after I'm done. :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alden
>>
>>
>
>
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-- 
---
Brett Chandler-Finch
The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
Austin, TX 78749
(512) 703-0669
naturemakeswell at gmail.com


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From: greekwargodaries at yahoo.com (Aries zodiac)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:03:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] Fwd: Look what i found...
Message-ID: <1323767027.9360.androidMobile@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

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From naturemakeswell at gmail.com  Sun Dec 25 02:28:14 2011
From: naturemakeswell at gmail.com (Brett Chandler-Finch)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 04:28:14 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
Message-ID: <CAFLy5JwEAB-ULPFS--_us8SpgrMWkpYaPUW9_vqDSAYd3FpruQ@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings fellow bards,

It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that the yellow and
black bard cloak was destroyed.    I took it to the dry cleaners to
have it cleaned and pressed for Eisteddfod.   The dry cleaners ruined
the cloak.   There are stains all over it.   They claim the black bled
onto the yellow, however the stains are all over the cloak and I am
beginning to believe they may have damaged it in some other way.
The dry cleaner was unable to repair the damage.  I had the cloak
cleaned last year with no problems.  I am currently looking into legal
issues to recover damages for the cloak.

Though I did nothing wrong, I still feel horribly guilty for taking
the cloak to the cleaners at all as it was perfectly fine and did not
truly need to be cleaned.   I will be having a new cloak built,
however it will not be ready in time for Eisteddfod. I will get it to
the new champion when it is completed.   We still have the original
cloak.

I would like your input into the design for the new cloak.   I am
looking at making the cloak out of a lighter material as the cloak was
a bit warm especially when standing in court.   The award consitution
states that the cloak is "A cloak of many colors bearing the badge of
the Premier Bard of Ansteorra on the back"    Do we wish to have a
multicolored cloak built or a yellow and black cloak built.  another
option would be a yellow and black cloak with a multicolored trim
around the edges.

Again I am sorry for having failed in my duties to protect the regalia.


Goldweard of St. Golias

Premier Bard


-- 
---
Brett Chandler-Finch
The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
Austin, TX 78749
(512) 703-0669
naturemakeswell at gmail.com


From gwynethb63 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 25 07:27:10 2011
From: gwynethb63 at yahoo.com (gail young)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 07:27:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
In-Reply-To: <CAFLy5JwEAB-ULPFS--_us8SpgrMWkpYaPUW9_vqDSAYd3FpruQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFLy5JwEAB-ULPFS--_us8SpgrMWkpYaPUW9_vqDSAYd3FpruQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1324826830.51377.YahooMailNeo@web161301.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Accidents happen.? We do what we think is best and deal with the results.
I am sure the new one will be wonderful.
gwyneth

From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
To: bards at lists.ansteorra.org 
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 4:28 AM
Subject: [Bards] Sad News

Greetings fellow bards,

It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that the yellow and
black bard cloak was destroyed.? ? I took it to the dry cleaners to
have it cleaned and pressed for Eisteddfod.? The dry cleaners ruined
the cloak.? There are stains all over it.? They claim the black bled
onto the yellow, however the stains are all over the cloak and I am
beginning to believe they may have damaged it in some other way.
The dry cleaner was unable to repair the damage.? I had the cloak
cleaned last year with no problems.? I am currently looking into legal
issues to recover damages for the cloak.

Though I did nothing wrong, I still feel horribly guilty for taking
the cloak to the cleaners at all as it was perfectly fine and did not
truly need to be cleaned.? I will be having a new cloak built,
however it will not be ready in time for Eisteddfod. I will get it to
the new champion when it is completed.? We still have the original
cloak.

I would like your input into the design for the new cloak.? I am
looking at making the cloak out of a lighter material as the cloak was
a bit warm especially when standing in court.? The award consitution
states that the cloak is "A cloak of many colors bearing the badge of
the Premier Bard of Ansteorra on the back"? ? Do we wish to have a
multicolored cloak built or a yellow and black cloak built.? another
option would be a yellow and black cloak with a multicolored trim
around the edges.

Again I am sorry for having failed in my duties to protect the regalia.


Goldweard of St. Golias

Premier Bard


-- 
---
Brett Chandler-Finch
The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
Austin, TX 78749
(512) 703-0669
naturemakeswell at gmail.com
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From rudin at peoplepc.com  Sun Dec 25 07:46:44 2011
From: rudin at peoplepc.com (Jay Rudin)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:46:44 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
Message-ID: <5440445.1324828004919.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

If there is a single day in the year to be loving and forgiving, that day is today.

The cloak was wonderful - but it was also merely an object. Premier Bard is an idea, a focus, an inspiration. You have left no stains or damage to fix.

Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin


-----Original Message-----
>From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 25, 2011 4:28 AM
>To: bards at lists.ansteorra.org
>Subject: [Bards] Sad News
>
>Greetings fellow bards,
>
>It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that the yellow and
>black bard cloak was destroyed.    I took it to the dry cleaners to
>have it cleaned and pressed for Eisteddfod.   The dry cleaners ruined
>the cloak.   There are stains all over it.   They claim the black bled
>onto the yellow, however the stains are all over the cloak and I am
>beginning to believe they may have damaged it in some other way.
>The dry cleaner was unable to repair the damage.  I had the cloak
>cleaned last year with no problems.  I am currently looking into legal
>issues to recover damages for the cloak.
>
>Though I did nothing wrong, I still feel horribly guilty for taking
>the cloak to the cleaners at all as it was perfectly fine and did not
>truly need to be cleaned.   I will be having a new cloak built,
>however it will not be ready in time for Eisteddfod. I will get it to
>the new champion when it is completed.   We still have the original
>cloak.
>
>I would like your input into the design for the new cloak.   I am
>looking at making the cloak out of a lighter material as the cloak was
>a bit warm especially when standing in court.   The award consitution
>states that the cloak is "A cloak of many colors bearing the badge of
>the Premier Bard of Ansteorra on the back"    Do we wish to have a
>multicolored cloak built or a yellow and black cloak built.  another
>option would be a yellow and black cloak with a multicolored trim
>around the edges.
>
>Again I am sorry for having failed in my duties to protect the regalia.
>
>
>Goldweard of St. Golias
>
>Premier Bard
>
>
>-- 
>---
>Brett Chandler-Finch
>The physician heals, Nature makes well.
>
>8401 Treehouse Ln.
>Austin, TX 78749
>(512) 703-0669
>naturemakeswell at gmail.com
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________________________________________
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From michael.silverhands at gmail.com  Sun Dec 25 08:08:35 2011
From: michael.silverhands at gmail.com (Michael Silverhands)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:08:35 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
In-Reply-To: <5440445.1324828004919.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <5440445.1324828004919.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CADrVkduA=i=Rp56x6VNedMX=QFdG745gF-Lrxz3CE6+=ZpM+JQ@mail.gmail.com>

What Robin said. Peace and forgiveness be yours this day -- of others,
as well as yourself.

Michael Silverhands

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> If there is a single day in the year to be loving and forgiving, that day is today.
>
> The cloak was wonderful - but it was also merely an object. Premier Bard is an idea, a focus, an inspiration. You have left no stains or damage to fix.
>
> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
>


From maggegene at gmail.com  Sun Dec 25 16:34:05 2011
From: maggegene at gmail.com (Genie Barrett)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:34:05 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
In-Reply-To: <CADrVkduA=i=Rp56x6VNedMX=QFdG745gF-Lrxz3CE6+=ZpM+JQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5440445.1324828004919.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<CADrVkduA=i=Rp56x6VNedMX=QFdG745gF-Lrxz3CE6+=ZpM+JQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJOMakCNX7y=a1WVSNfss2bKi63udS7dXeSxKB0mzyrfN7FsMA@mail.gmail.com>

I also have no hard feelings or anger. Life truly happens, and there isn't
much we can do about it.

Contact me privately, if you wish, I know who designed and made this cloak.
Magge

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Michael Silverhands <
michael.silverhands at gmail.com> wrote:

> What Robin said. Peace and forgiveness be yours this day -- of others,
> as well as yourself.
>
> Michael Silverhands
>
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> > If there is a single day in the year to be loving and forgiving, that
> day is today.
> >
> > The cloak was wonderful - but it was also merely an object. Premier Bard
> is an idea, a focus, an inspiration. You have left no stains or damage to
> fix.
> >
> > Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/bards-ansteorra.org
>


From naturemakeswell at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 06:20:19 2011
From: naturemakeswell at gmail.com (Brett Chandler-Finch)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:20:19 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
Message-ID: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the breakdown for the schedule for Eisteddfod

9-10  Sign Up
11  First Round
12 Lunch
1 Second Round
2 third round

I would like your input for the final round of eisteddfod

How many and what potential topics should be included in the final
round My original idea was to have about 10-15 different topics that
could be drawn from the box.   However this may prove difficult for
some to prepare for that many  topics  It has been suggested that I
have 3-4 topics that would be in the list.    It would still be random
as to which topic you receive.  However,  there would be 2 hours
between when you receive the topic and when you perform the final
round.


Here is a starting list of Topics

War
Love
Honor
Food
Courage
Family
Money
Friendship
Strength
Celebration




-- 
---
Brett Chandler-Finch
The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
Austin, TX 78749
(512) 703-0669
naturemakeswell at gmail.com


From jhirling at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 07:58:27 2011
From: jhirling at gmail.com (John Hirling)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 09:58:27 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
In-Reply-To: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGJRBOu_qZVKBJ1_A7VqP71rUcbF1uaTSk4PNQ7wqiGZUsLaEw@mail.gmail.com>

It's your call of course but one consideration might be whether you, in
your experience as Ansteorra's Premier Bard, found it important to be able
to think on the fly.  The more important you feel that is, the more
subjects you will want to include.  As for my preparation (and I offer this
advice as no cost - it's worth every penny), I'll prepare the bones of a
story and then utilize my time to shape it around whatever I pick.  If
there's time, I may try to shape it into a song or a poem.

~ihon
One person with passion is better than forty people merely interested."

? E. M. Forster


On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Brett Chandler-Finch <
naturemakeswell at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is the breakdown for the schedule for Eisteddfod
>
> 9-10  Sign Up
> 11  First Round
> 12 Lunch
> 1 Second Round
> 2 third round
>
> I would like your input for the final round of eisteddfod
>
> How many and what potential topics should be included in the final
> round My original idea was to have about 10-15 different topics that
> could be drawn from the box.   However this may prove difficult for
> some to prepare for that many  topics  It has been suggested that I
> have 3-4 topics that would be in the list.    It would still be random
> as to which topic you receive.  However,  there would be 2 hours
> between when you receive the topic and when you perform the final
> round.
>
>
> Here is a starting list of Topics
>
> War
> Love
> Honor
> Food
> Courage
> Family
> Money
> Friendship
> Strength
> Celebration
>
>
>
>
> --
> ---
> Brett Chandler-Finch
> The physician heals, Nature makes well.
>
> 8401 Treehouse Ln.
> Austin, TX 78749
> (512) 703-0669
> naturemakeswell at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Bards mailing list
> Bards at lists.ansteorra.org
> http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/bards-ansteorra.org
>


From greekwargodaries at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  1 15:55:27 2011
From: greekwargodaries at yahoo.com (Aries zodiac)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 15:55:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] FWD: Look what i found here
Message-ID: <1322783727.10334.androidMobile@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

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From celtic_wolff at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  1 11:10:15 2011
From: celtic_wolff at yahoo.com (Beth)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:10:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
In-Reply-To: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1322766615.57769.YahooMailNeo@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The original Box of Doom, which I used when? stepped down, had at least one topic per each competitor. I wanted there to not be any repeats of topic so that each person was able to showcase their talents uniquely. i don't know if this helps or not,lol.
?
HL Elanor O'Ruark

"Little girls, this seems to say, Never stop upon your way. 
Never trust a stranger-friend; No one knows how it will end. 
As you're pretty, so be wise; Wolves may lurk in every guise. 
Handsome they may be, and kind, Gay, or charming never mind! 
Now, as then, 'tis simple truth... 
Sweetest tongue has sharpest tooth!"

From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
To: bards at lists.ansteorra.org 
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:20 AM
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod

Here is the breakdown for the schedule for Eisteddfod

9-10? Sign Up
11? First Round
12 Lunch
1 Second Round
2 third round

I would like your input for the final round of eisteddfod

How many and what potential topics should be included in the final
round My original idea was to have about 10-15 different topics that
could be drawn from the box.? However this may prove difficult for
some to prepare for that many? topics? It has been suggested that I
have 3-4 topics that would be in the list.? ? It would still be random
as to which topic you receive.? However,? there would be 2 hours
between when you receive the topic and when you perform the final
round.


Here is a starting list of Topics

War
Love
Honor
Food
Courage
Family


From maggegene at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 09:30:53 2011
From: maggegene at gmail.com (Genie Barrett)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 11:30:53 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
In-Reply-To: <1322766615.57769.YahooMailNeo@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAFLy5JyeZJzrNzxw7Fn1cFMJHCzaGGAxg+wvfw-yyUqdQDTq7w@mail.gmail.com>
	<1322766615.57769.YahooMailNeo@web110008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJOMakCsAFXtw4aTHTBFXuSuFfvQrRVvLH62b=VdObsPWXnOZA@mail.gmail.com>

I like this idea, I liked it then, too.

I also feel, that you shouldn't tell what topics are in there.  If you are
looking for flexibility and spontaneity, then you should make it a
surprise. GRIN

HL Magge MacPherson

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Beth <celtic_wolff at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The original Box of Doom, which I used when  stepped down, had at least
> one topic per each competitor. I wanted there to not be any repeats of
> topic so that each person was able to showcase their talents uniquely. i
> don't know if this helps or not,lol.
>
> HL Elanor O'Ruark
>
>
> From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
> To: bards at lists.ansteorra.org
> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:20 AM
> Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
>
> Here is the breakdown for the schedule for Eisteddfod
>
> 9-10  Sign Up
> 11  First Round
> 12 Lunch
> 1 Second Round
> 2 third round
>
> I would like your input for the final round of eisteddfod
>


From rudin at peoplepc.com  Tue Dec  6 11:45:55 2011
From: rudin at peoplepc.com (Jay Rudin)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:45:55 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
Message-ID: <16526532.1323200756368.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Magge wrote:

>I also feel, that you shouldn't tell what topics are in there.  If you are
>looking for flexibility and spontaneity, then you should make it a
>surprise. GRIN

Making it harder to enter gives a greater challenge, and fewer entrants. While I enjoy challenging tasks, we've only had 3-5 entrants lately. I strongly suggest that now is not the time to introduce difficulties that will chase people away.

Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin

________________________________________
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A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com


From maggegene at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 17:58:43 2011
From: maggegene at gmail.com (Genie Barrett)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:58:43 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Schedule Input for Eisteddfod
In-Reply-To: <16526532.1323200756368.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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LOL Master Robin, you are totally right, but the idea of the box
presupposes a quest for flexibility.

I guess it's what the King/Kingdom wants in their bard.  Is the ability to
come up with something completely random and off the cuff one of the
preferred abilities?

Magge

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Magge wrote:
>
> >I also feel, that you shouldn't tell what topics are in there.  If you are
> >looking for flexibility and spontaneity, then you should make it a
> >surprise. GRIN
>
> Making it harder to enter gives a greater challenge, and fewer entrants.
> While I enjoy challenging tasks, we've only had 3-5 entrants lately. I
> strongly suggest that now is not the time to introduce difficulties that
> will chase people away.
>
> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
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From: greekwargodaries at yahoo.com (Aries zodiac)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 00:19:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] Fwd: I DID IT!...
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From naturemakeswell at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 12:17:33 2011
From: naturemakeswell at gmail.com (Brett Chandler-Finch)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 14:17:33 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Bards Digest, Vol 66, Issue 6
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After speaking with several individuals including  some who are choral
musicians outside of the SCA  it seems that the idea of having to know
 possibility of 10-15 different topic pieces would be daunting.
Therefore  I am limiting the topics for the last round to  4

War
Love
Chivalry
Celebration

There will be a repeat of themes in the final round, but this will
still allow for enough variety that it will not become too redundant.


-- 
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Brett Chandler-Finch
The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
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(512) 703-0669
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From alden_drake at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 12 05:48:32 2011
From: alden_drake at sbcglobal.net (Alden Drake)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:48:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] Eiateddfod format
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For the first round, does "period piece" also include pieces in period style?

Also, with the Box of Doom being reduced to only 4 topics, is it necessary to 
have a lunch break scheduled in between rounds?? I'd suspect more performers 
will be coming armed with a piece for each theme in advance, and so probably 
won't need a long break to see what they have in their repertoire to suit a 
topic (which is more likely when there are numerous topics in the Box of Doom).? 
I also don't know how other performers feel about eating before/during a 
performance, but I tend to perfer eating after I'm done. :)

Cheers,
Alden

?



________________________________
From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
To: "bards at lists.ansteorra.org" <bards at lists.ansteorra.org>; 
"ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org" <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tue, November 8, 2011 2:48:07 PM
Subject: [Bards] Eiateddfod format

Greetings.? Eisteddfod will soon be upon us.? It will be held in
conjunction with. Steppes 12th night. On Saturday Jan. 7th.? The exact
time will be posted on the event website.

Here is the format that will be used.? There will be 3 rounds

1st round.? Period piece.? Documentation strongly suggested

2nd round.? Sca or Ansteorra specific piece

3rd round. Box of Doom.? After the 1st round each competitor will pull a
subject from a box.? The performance piece will be in some way related to
the topic.? A list of potential topics will be published closer to the
event.

An overall score of all pieces and their Majesties choices will determine
the victor.

It has been an honor serving as your Premier Bard. I look forward to seeing
the next Bard.

YIS
Goldweard
Premier Bard.
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From maggegene at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 08:43:54 2011
From: maggegene at gmail.com (Genie Barrett)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:43:54 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Eiateddfod format
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	<1323697712.1020.YahooMailRC@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Yes, eating before a performance can be rather detrimental.  GRIN

Magge

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Alden Drake <alden_drake at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> For the first round, does "period piece" also include pieces in period
> style?
>
> Also, with the Box of Doom being reduced to only 4 topics, is it necessary
> to
> have a lunch break scheduled in between rounds?  I'd suspect more
> performers
> will be coming armed with a piece for each theme in advance, and so
> probably
> won't need a long break to see what they have in their repertoire to suit a
> topic (which is more likely when there are numerous topics in the Box of
> Doom).
> I also don't know how other performers feel about eating before/during a
> performance, but I tend to perfer eating after I'm done. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Alden
>
>


From naturemakeswell at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 12:28:59 2011
From: naturemakeswell at gmail.com (Brett Chandler-Finch)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:28:59 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Bards Digest, Vol 66, Issue 8
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The lunch time  was to allow nobles to eat (I think nobles lunch is
around 12:30)    There are about 10 entrants so far.    If we start at
1  we only have 2 hours to run through the gauntlet.    It can be done
but will be extremely rushed.   Court is at 4  and we need an hour to
finish the judging scroll etc.  so it makes for a early day. (sorry my
comma button isn't working.)

As far as period style  I would include that but not necessarily a sca
specific piece in period style.

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> For the first round, does "period piece" also include pieces in period style?
>
> Also, with the Box of Doom being reduced to only 4 topics, is it necessary to
> have a lunch break scheduled in between rounds?? I'd suspect more performers
> will be coming armed with a piece for each theme in advance, and so probably
> won't need a long break to see what they have in their repertoire to suit a
> topic (which is more likely when there are numerous topics in the Box of Doom).?
> I also don't know how other performers feel about eating before/during a
> performance, but I tend to perfer eating after I'm done. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Alden
>
> ?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
> To: "bards at lists.ansteorra.org" <bards at lists.ansteorra.org>;
> "ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org" <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Tue, November 8, 2011 2:48:07 PM
> Subject: [Bards] Eiateddfod format
>
> Greetings.? Eisteddfod will soon be upon us.? It will be held in
> conjunction with. Steppes 12th night. On Saturday Jan. 7th.? The exact
> time will be posted on the event website.
>
> Here is the format that will be used.? There will be 3 rounds
>
> 1st round.? Period piece.? Documentation strongly suggested
>
> 2nd round.? Sca or Ansteorra specific piece
>
> 3rd round. Box of Doom.? After the 1st round each competitor will pull a
> subject from a box.? The performance piece will be in some way related to
> the topic.? A list of potential topics will be published closer to the
> event.
>
> An overall score of all pieces and their Majesties choices will determine
> the victor.
>
> It has been an honor serving as your Premier Bard. I look forward to seeing
> the next Bard.
>
> YIS
> Goldweard
> Premier Bard.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:43:54 -0600
> From: Genie Barrett <maggegene at gmail.com>
> To: Ansteorran Bardic list <bards at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [Bards] Eiateddfod format
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>
> Yes, eating before a performance can be rather detrimental. ?GRIN
>
> Magge
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Alden Drake <alden_drake at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>> For the first round, does "period piece" also include pieces in period
>> style?
>>
>> Also, with the Box of Doom being reduced to only 4 topics, is it necessary
>> to
>> have a lunch break scheduled in between rounds? ?I'd suspect more
>> performers
>> will be coming armed with a piece for each theme in advance, and so
>> probably
>> won't need a long break to see what they have in their repertoire to suit a
>> topic (which is more likely when there are numerous topics in the Box of
>> Doom).
>> I also don't know how other performers feel about eating before/during a
>> performance, but I tend to perfer eating after I'm done. :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alden
>>
>>
>
>
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The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
Austin, TX 78749
(512) 703-0669
naturemakeswell at gmail.com


From greekwargodaries at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 13 01:03:47 2011
From: greekwargodaries at yahoo.com (Aries zodiac)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:03:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] Fwd: Look what i found...
Message-ID: <1323767027.9360.androidMobile@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

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From naturemakeswell at gmail.com  Sun Dec 25 02:28:14 2011
From: naturemakeswell at gmail.com (Brett Chandler-Finch)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 04:28:14 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
Message-ID: <CAFLy5JwEAB-ULPFS--_us8SpgrMWkpYaPUW9_vqDSAYd3FpruQ@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings fellow bards,

It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that the yellow and
black bard cloak was destroyed.    I took it to the dry cleaners to
have it cleaned and pressed for Eisteddfod.   The dry cleaners ruined
the cloak.   There are stains all over it.   They claim the black bled
onto the yellow, however the stains are all over the cloak and I am
beginning to believe they may have damaged it in some other way.
The dry cleaner was unable to repair the damage.  I had the cloak
cleaned last year with no problems.  I am currently looking into legal
issues to recover damages for the cloak.

Though I did nothing wrong, I still feel horribly guilty for taking
the cloak to the cleaners at all as it was perfectly fine and did not
truly need to be cleaned.   I will be having a new cloak built,
however it will not be ready in time for Eisteddfod. I will get it to
the new champion when it is completed.   We still have the original
cloak.

I would like your input into the design for the new cloak.   I am
looking at making the cloak out of a lighter material as the cloak was
a bit warm especially when standing in court.   The award consitution
states that the cloak is "A cloak of many colors bearing the badge of
the Premier Bard of Ansteorra on the back"    Do we wish to have a
multicolored cloak built or a yellow and black cloak built.  another
option would be a yellow and black cloak with a multicolored trim
around the edges.

Again I am sorry for having failed in my duties to protect the regalia.


Goldweard of St. Golias

Premier Bard


-- 
---
Brett Chandler-Finch
The physician heals, Nature makes well.

8401 Treehouse Ln.
Austin, TX 78749
(512) 703-0669
naturemakeswell at gmail.com


From gwynethb63 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 25 07:27:10 2011
From: gwynethb63 at yahoo.com (gail young)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 07:27:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
In-Reply-To: <CAFLy5JwEAB-ULPFS--_us8SpgrMWkpYaPUW9_vqDSAYd3FpruQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFLy5JwEAB-ULPFS--_us8SpgrMWkpYaPUW9_vqDSAYd3FpruQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1324826830.51377.YahooMailNeo@web161301.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Accidents happen.? We do what we think is best and deal with the results.
I am sure the new one will be wonderful.
gwyneth

From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
To: bards at lists.ansteorra.org 
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 4:28 AM
Subject: [Bards] Sad News

Greetings fellow bards,

It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that the yellow and
black bard cloak was destroyed.? ? I took it to the dry cleaners to
have it cleaned and pressed for Eisteddfod.? The dry cleaners ruined
the cloak.? There are stains all over it.? They claim the black bled
onto the yellow, however the stains are all over the cloak and I am
beginning to believe they may have damaged it in some other way.
The dry cleaner was unable to repair the damage.? I had the cloak
cleaned last year with no problems.? I am currently looking into legal
issues to recover damages for the cloak.

Though I did nothing wrong, I still feel horribly guilty for taking
the cloak to the cleaners at all as it was perfectly fine and did not
truly need to be cleaned.? I will be having a new cloak built,
however it will not be ready in time for Eisteddfod. I will get it to
the new champion when it is completed.? We still have the original
cloak.

I would like your input into the design for the new cloak.? I am
looking at making the cloak out of a lighter material as the cloak was
a bit warm especially when standing in court.? The award consitution
states that the cloak is "A cloak of many colors bearing the badge of
the Premier Bard of Ansteorra on the back"? ? Do we wish to have a
multicolored cloak built or a yellow and black cloak built.? another
option would be a yellow and black cloak with a multicolored trim
around the edges.

Again I am sorry for having failed in my duties to protect the regalia.


Goldweard of St. Golias

Premier Bard


-- 
---
Brett Chandler-Finch
The physician heals, Nature makes well.

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From rudin at peoplepc.com  Sun Dec 25 07:46:44 2011
From: rudin at peoplepc.com (Jay Rudin)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:46:44 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
Message-ID: <5440445.1324828004919.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

If there is a single day in the year to be loving and forgiving, that day is today.

The cloak was wonderful - but it was also merely an object. Premier Bard is an idea, a focus, an inspiration. You have left no stains or damage to fix.

Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin


-----Original Message-----
>From: Brett Chandler-Finch <naturemakeswell at gmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 25, 2011 4:28 AM
>To: bards at lists.ansteorra.org
>Subject: [Bards] Sad News
>
>Greetings fellow bards,
>
>It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that the yellow and
>black bard cloak was destroyed.    I took it to the dry cleaners to
>have it cleaned and pressed for Eisteddfod.   The dry cleaners ruined
>the cloak.   There are stains all over it.   They claim the black bled
>onto the yellow, however the stains are all over the cloak and I am
>beginning to believe they may have damaged it in some other way.
>The dry cleaner was unable to repair the damage.  I had the cloak
>cleaned last year with no problems.  I am currently looking into legal
>issues to recover damages for the cloak.
>
>Though I did nothing wrong, I still feel horribly guilty for taking
>the cloak to the cleaners at all as it was perfectly fine and did not
>truly need to be cleaned.   I will be having a new cloak built,
>however it will not be ready in time for Eisteddfod. I will get it to
>the new champion when it is completed.   We still have the original
>cloak.
>
>I would like your input into the design for the new cloak.   I am
>looking at making the cloak out of a lighter material as the cloak was
>a bit warm especially when standing in court.   The award consitution
>states that the cloak is "A cloak of many colors bearing the badge of
>the Premier Bard of Ansteorra on the back"    Do we wish to have a
>multicolored cloak built or a yellow and black cloak built.  another
>option would be a yellow and black cloak with a multicolored trim
>around the edges.
>
>Again I am sorry for having failed in my duties to protect the regalia.
>
>
>Goldweard of St. Golias
>
>Premier Bard
>
>
>-- 
>---
>Brett Chandler-Finch
>The physician heals, Nature makes well.
>
>8401 Treehouse Ln.
>Austin, TX 78749
>(512) 703-0669
>naturemakeswell at gmail.com
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From michael.silverhands at gmail.com  Sun Dec 25 08:08:35 2011
From: michael.silverhands at gmail.com (Michael Silverhands)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:08:35 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
In-Reply-To: <5440445.1324828004919.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <5440445.1324828004919.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CADrVkduA=i=Rp56x6VNedMX=QFdG745gF-Lrxz3CE6+=ZpM+JQ@mail.gmail.com>

What Robin said. Peace and forgiveness be yours this day -- of others,
as well as yourself.

Michael Silverhands

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> If there is a single day in the year to be loving and forgiving, that day is today.
>
> The cloak was wonderful - but it was also merely an object. Premier Bard is an idea, a focus, an inspiration. You have left no stains or damage to fix.
>
> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
>


From maggegene at gmail.com  Sun Dec 25 16:34:05 2011
From: maggegene at gmail.com (Genie Barrett)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:34:05 -0600
Subject: [Bards] Sad News
In-Reply-To: <CADrVkduA=i=Rp56x6VNedMX=QFdG745gF-Lrxz3CE6+=ZpM+JQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5440445.1324828004919.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<CADrVkduA=i=Rp56x6VNedMX=QFdG745gF-Lrxz3CE6+=ZpM+JQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJOMakCNX7y=a1WVSNfss2bKi63udS7dXeSxKB0mzyrfN7FsMA@mail.gmail.com>

I also have no hard feelings or anger. Life truly happens, and there isn't
much we can do about it.

Contact me privately, if you wish, I know who designed and made this cloak.
Magge

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Michael Silverhands <
michael.silverhands at gmail.com> wrote:

> What Robin said. Peace and forgiveness be yours this day -- of others,
> as well as yourself.
>
> Michael Silverhands
>
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> > If there is a single day in the year to be loving and forgiving, that
> day is today.
> >
> > The cloak was wonderful - but it was also merely an object. Premier Bard
> is an idea, a focus, an inspiration. You have left no stains or damage to
> fix.
> >
> > Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
> >
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