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<DIV><SPAN class=279400912-13012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I like
researching, because it gives me formats, and a mind set to base original, but
period derivative works off of. I like it, not for contests, but because
structure and format gives me the necessary tension and friction to write better
pieces. It works for me -- learning to write teleplays, screen plays, and
spending a solid year studying Dante's Divine Comedy -- a whole YEAR to that one
piece -- taught me how to write, how to critique, and how to tell a good solid
yarn with allegorical depth. (At least, I hope so.)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279400912-13012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279400912-13012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
thing I love about Dante, is that he says at least three things with every point
that he makes. He was a weasel. A total weasel. And -- he filked. "La Vita Nova"
is a Virgil filk. Honest!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279400912-13012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279400912-13012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I've
left the long stuff attached to give some relevance to my
comments.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279400912-13012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=279400912-13012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Esther</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> bards-bounces@ansteorra.org
[mailto:bards-bounces@ansteorra.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dawn
Rummel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 12, 2004 10:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Ansteorran Bardic list<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Bards] Back to
docs<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><B><I>"Biggs, Truly" <truly.biggs@hp.com></I></B> wrote:
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Oops Sorry to
have continued on a topic that is dead.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Antonia says: Really, I didn't mean to call it
dead. I just wanted to jump in the lull with a topic I've been mulling
over for awhile. So why don't I just kick it again (this is long -
sorry).</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Eleanor wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Authenticity is a quantifiable thing - and therefore
easier to judge than art. I think if we have leaned toward authenticity in
the SCA, it has something to do with attempting to standardize what we all
think is "GOOD" by measuring<BR>it against something stationary - like - is
it historically accurate. <BR>We have opted for artifact rather than
art.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Antonia responds: I'm not sure I buy this
entirely. It may be why *some* people do it - but not why *I* like
documetation. I do very little research into other period things, but
I find joy in learning about period literature. Documentation allows
me to hone that knowledge - you know a thing better if you can explain it,
even better still if you can put that knowledge into writing. I don't
think requiring research necessarily takes away from performance - or,
perhaps more precisely, I don't think judges should allow it to. There
is also the question of the purpose of the particular competition - is it to
educate and to show that you are educated about performance? Is it to
be as entertaining as possible in a period fashion? Or is it to *be*
entertaining? The judging will certainly vary in each
situation.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Eleanor writes:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">If I may attempt to extrapolate - If we choose a
titled bard through<BR>competition, and we score somewhat entertaining
period pieces higher<BR>than more often requested/crowd pleasing
original/more modern pieces,<BR>then we have set ourselves up to have, say,
a baronial bard who is<BR>perhaps not a good leader for the campfire sings.
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Antonia responds: Yes, but also a bard who is
more focused on research and recreation. I actually think this is not
entirely a bad thing. Each barony has a particular flavor - some are
more into period foo and some are more into rowdy, bawdy campfire circles,
with everything in between. So, since each gets to make up the rules
for their competitions, each should end up with the type bard they would
want. Or, if the outgoing champion makes up the rules, hopefully he or
she will consult the ruling nobles on what they want and adjust
accordingly. The problem then comes to kingdom level competitions, of
which we have 2 - Eisteddfodd and Kingdom A&S (very different types of
competitions). Kingdom A&S will *of course* be heavy on the
documentation side of things. Leaving Eisteddfodd - and we're back
where started.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Pendaran and Eleanor wrote: something neat comparing
bad period pieces to bad period food</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I'm with Eleanor on this one, though my percentage
might be different. I think a higher percentage of non-period pieces
are going to be more entertaining to the general public than period pieces
(I think that says what I want it to). For my part, I like the idea of
wooing them with funny or sad or wonderful
not-necessarily-period pieces, then sprinkle in some fabulous period
pieces (they certainly exist, you just might have to dig a little).
Maybe then they'll want more!</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Anyone who knows me knows that I'm a sucker for good
performance, be it period or non-period. In the end, I'd be sad to see
either side win, and I hope we never lose sight of the fact that a bard's
primary jobs are entertainment and education. But how can we
educate if no one is listening, and who will listen if we're not
entertaining?
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR>Antonia/Dawn<BR><BR>It's
the little things in life...
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