<div>Comments to the point, and good, sharp points -- which beg the question, "Who judges the Judges?"</div> <div> </div> <div>I for one, can't tell you if someone was flat, off pitch, etc. I doubt an Elizabethan expert could accurately judge, on its specific and cultural terms, and Anglo-Saxon skald.</div> <div> </div> <div>And how much documentation is a judge supposed to be able to read, understand, and be able to tell if it's even good scholarship. BEcause there is a LOT of bad scholarship out there -- what are the standards of that?</div> <div> </div> <div>Heh. </div> <div> </div> <div>Running the hell away now.</div> <div><BR>Esther<BR><BR><B><I>gail young <gwynethb63@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <DIV>My comment wasn't about having a form. It was about qualifying who "wins". I just think it's unfair to tell a
performer or an artisan "it just didn't work for me" w/o giving some specifics about WHY.</DIV> <DIV>The judges on American Idol do it all the time with feedback like "you rocked dawg"...or "it was a mess".</DIV> <DIV>I would think you could get a lot more out of someone saying "your pitch was flat" or "you were off the beat" or "your story was too long and complicated"<BR><BR><B><I>Jay Rudin <rudin@ev1.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gwyneth asked:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> That's great if all the judges are "moved" by the same piece.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> Also, how do you give feedback to the others? You need to</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>> do more "moving" pieces?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why would having a form or not affect what feedback I give? "You need to work on your diction" or "Your poem doesn't scan" work exactly the same whether there's a form or not. Feedback does not require assigning numbers in categories. </DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Most helpful feedback I've gotten as an Ansteorran bard for more than 1/5 of a century has been from one-on-one discussions. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The kingdom Eisteddfod was judged without forms for years. The judges got together and talked about what they heard, exchanged ideas, and came up with a winner. Feedback was offered to anyone, and could be quite useful and
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