Greeting everyone I have talking to others. I have been talking to Heralds and Fools and Courtiers. They have been talking about the failure of the Landed nobles to create the show. If you are really trying to create a medieval/Renaissance feel you are going to use more Bards/Performers. I know I have seen some Baron/ess do a good job. I saw Master Thomas use a Bard to do a praise piece to honor an individual. I saw Sir Pendaran and Mistress Jehanne use entertainers to keep their populace happy during long meetings. I am sure other Landed Nobles have use us. When Sir Simon was Prince of Ansteorra he had all the Bards tell tales of true Chivalry. Master Bjorn had the Bards tell tales about the Nine Worthies which started the whole Nine Worthies fad. I know there are times which we have set the stage well. We need to give word fame to the Landed Nobility and the Crowns that create situations that allow us to perform. I remember a famous Irish tale. The Chief Bard of the Irish College had been on circuit and when he got back to the Court of Tara he was bragging on getting a silver ring from a minor king. The High King ask why he was giving word fame to this king when he has gotten gold rings from the High King. The Chief Bard answered, " You see your Majesty It is the first time this king has given anything." It was common for Bards to cry the Largess and Courtesies of nobles that supported them and we need to take a page from their books and give word fame to the courts of nobles that support us. willow de wisp ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today!