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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My Dear Sir Kenneth, Even though I agree
about "bad filk", I must put another side to things. The particular
song you referenced, I heard the filk first. I had never heard of Stan Rogers
until I was told where that song came from. The song in and of itself is
not grossly mundane unless you know the original. I understand your point
of view, but everyone has their own yardstick of "acceptable" mundanity. Yours
is obviously shorter than mine. You know that I love you and Adelaide, so
I hope I am not sounding too critcal. I am just presenting the other side of the
coin. Thanks for letting me share. H E AmberLea</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kentheriot@ravenboymusic.com
href="mailto:kentheriot@ravenboymusic.com">Ken Theriot</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=bards@lists.ansteorra.org
href="mailto:bards@lists.ansteorra.org">'Ansteorran Bardic list'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:55
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bards] Dream? What Dream?
Did you see a Dream? I know I didn't!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><</SPAN></FONT>Their
mundaneness then trickled down into our humble camp via many others where it
proceeded to fight us for our own suspension of disbelief.><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I feel I must jump in here as the above statement
relates directly to our craft. For me, bardic performances have provided
some of the few golden moments in my SCA career (over 20 years now…uggh) when
I felt the “magic” of being lost in that long-ago we come to the SCA to
find. So even though not all of my performance pieces are intended to do
that (The Feast Song, for example, is meant to evoke a magic of another
kind…laughter), one thing I try REALLY hard to do is NOT snap people out of
their suspension of disbelief. That is the ultimate no-no as far as I’m
concerned. So this is why <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Adelaide</st1:place></st1:City> and I are so against the fairly
common practice in the bardic community of “bad filk.” Notice I didn’t
say “all filk.” To me, creating a bardic performance from a blatantly
modern song is what snaps me out of my “suspension of disbelief.” Go
ahead and filk other original SCA songs, no problem (as long as you credit the
original composer/author), and filk unknown tunes, or heaven-forbid, filk to a
period tune. But please, please, please STOP filking to Stan Rogers
Songs, or top 40 songs. NOTHING brings me out of the dream faster than a
filk to “Will the Circle Be Unbroken,” or “Take me Home Country Roads.”
And since in my mundane life, Stan Rogers was like a god to me, I was
horrified to hear “<st1:place w:st="on">Northwest Passage</st1:place>” filked
(and using many of the same lyrics of Stan’s song!!!) in Ansteorra! Talk
about a dream killer.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">So while we are calling for the halt of the
dream-killers, let us also look to our own craft to bring this
about.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Kenneth
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> an
angel in black ink [mailto:angelinblackink@yahoo.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:02
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> ansteorra bard
list<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Bards]
Dream? What Dream? Did you see a Dream? I know I
didn't!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thank you for your kind words, Elanor, it means a lot
to me for you to say such things. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Now, Svetlana, I feel that I must clarify for
you. I’m not wanting to change the way
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">people play, I just want them to play. You see,
I’ve stumbled upon <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on"><U1:CITY><U1:PLACE>Laurel</st1:place></st1:City></U1:PLACE></U1:CITY>
camps filled<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> with people talking about their mundane jobs and
such and been so turned away from<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> the dream that I had to leave and return to my
own. Their mundaneness then trickled<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> down into our humble camp via many others where
it proceeded to fight us for our own<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> suspension of disbelief. We eventually won
but my point is that we need to pay<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> attention to what we’re doing or we might ruin
it for others. Also, there have been
a<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'TimesNew Roman'"> load of people
bringing the mundane into our game *cough* ‘mod squad’
*cough*</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> which ruins it for many people who don’t give a
damn about why they’re mad at <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">so-and-so. The politics are getting out of
hand. People are getting turned off by the
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">vast freakiness of it all. (example: “I
believe this, but I can’t say it because it’ll tick
off<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <insert name(s) here and they’ll make my life
a living hell for it.>”) It’s ridiculous.
Even<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> now there are those who will speak privately but
do not post their feelings here.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Yes, there are people who are deep within the Dream
and perhaps I am a bit jaded by<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> all the silliness, but these people need to
share their Dream with those who don’t
know.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> I said it in my Work, to be without blame is
nearly impossible while being a part of the
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">community. We have a responsibility to see that
the next generation of SCAdians know<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> what we really are instead of a bunch of NERO
nerds squabbling over political crumbs.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To live the Dream and to help
others,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Xue XianXian, Miscreant at
Large<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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