And yet, on Ren Radio (internet radio rocks!) I hear Barrett's Privateer's filked so that the Privateers aren't off fighting Americans, but are Sea Wolves for the Queen! (Elizabeth Regina I, of course!)<br><br>There's also appropriate 'feel' songs, from modern artist. Depending on the circle and the occassion, the Kipling Songs from Puck of Pook's Hill by Leslie Fish can contribute, rather than take away. But, I hasten to add, I don't perform music, and otherwise, don't perform much. But what about 'modern' 'period' music, created by and original to our SCA and Ren Faire and SF&F performers and artists?<br><br>Emma<br><br><b><i>Ken Theriot <kentheriot@ravenboymusic.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> v\:*
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10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">“And with one fat ball the Yanks stove us in!!!!!!!” (which I’m sure you remembered 30 seconds later</span></font><font color="navy" face="Wingdings" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: navy;">J</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">). But I can rarely make it through that one without messing up SOMEWHERE</span></font><font color="navy" face="Wingdings" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: navy;">J</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">. Love, love, love it!! But the opening line of….Oh the year was 1778 might JUST be a little
telling</span></font><font color="navy" face="Wingdings" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: navy;">J</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Kenneth<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <hr tabindex="-1" align="center" size="2"
width="100%"> </span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> Gerald of Leesville [mailto:gerald.of.leesville@gmail.com] <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, April 27, 2008 8:59 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ansteorran Bardic list</st1:PersonName>'<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bards] Filking <of course it's a long reply!></span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Good
morning.</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Filking - it's what people do. I've filked, just about everyone here has filked, and we are (in various stages of our careers) rather indiscriminate about it. Choose the tune that lends itself to the lyrics you create. Think of it as practice for actual melodic composition. Depending on the amount of work you want to put into this hobby, the hope is that eventually you will start composing original melodies to go with the lyrics. For those who want to go a step further, research melodic rules of a certain portion of music history and try to emulate that. In the end, do the things that bring joy while doing them.</span></font><o:p></o:p></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Staying in period - This is a hobby and you should do what you want to do. I cheated and created a persona for the late 1500s. That way I can go through the various historical music repertoirs and claim them as historical research for my persona. I play tunes from 11 century through, Irish tunes, pieces written from the past and current middle ages. I'm a music slut, going so low as to volunteer to play "Hole In the Wall". Others may urge you to aspire to greater heights. I just urge people to increase their repetoire of memorized songs (got nothing against book reading, but unless it's done right, it ain't performing).</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> <div
class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Rennfair repetoir - The songs commonly sung at Renn Faires will get you started, and it's a lot of what most of the SCA public knows. For many this is "good enough" and there's no need to learn a whole lot more. "Macyntire", even though Mistress Adelaide might be damned near alergic to it, is popular because a lot of people get to join in who may have no musical talent whatsoever. It's not a song from the SCA periods, but it's fun to sing, fun to join in, and .... It's fun. The interesting thing is that there is a LOT of good material within the time-stretch the SCA "period" covers. It takes a little digging, a few questions asked here and there, but there's a treasure-trove full of historical
songs and tunes about that can keep an audience spell-bound (favorite moment # 177: Stargate Yule bardic competition when a young lady performed the plainchant "Veni Veni Emanuel" and was able to silence the whole hall).</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Bardic competition - A lot of what you might perform will depend on what the current champion and their patrons require within the competitions. As champion, I've gone from requiring different performance styles (singing, story-telling, recital, etc.) to sitting around a fire and judging from the best performances. In each case, much of what I've used as a rule I took as cues from my patrons (the baron/baroness or seneschal). Some will want a performer
with a broad depth of styles, others wanted a good performer, hang the different styles approach. To answer your question point-blank: If they request "period" pieces only, you're going to lose with "<st1:country-region w:st="on">Scotland</st1:country-region> the Brave" or "Minstrel Boy" if the judges have any say in it, but "Miri it is" will work and "Star of the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">County</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Down</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>" might. </span></font><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">I've had a few good teachers, and I'll see if I can't get you an actual list of web-spaces you can go to, but one in particular - Cantaria (<a
href="http://www.chivalry.com/cantaria/">http://www.chivalry.com/cantaria/</a>), is at least a starting point. You will probably receive more advice, Christiana, than you will know what to do with. The game I play will not necessarily fit your likes or dislikes. I encourage people who are so inclined to perform. The good ones will be asked to repeat what they do, or find something new, or be pointed toward a piece that might suit them (or not). I advise performers to pick and choose from what they like to do, learn it, and keep learning new pieces. Perform. If they have instrumental talent, I encourage them to perform more! As to taking one's self too seriously, I would like to encourage you to take up the concept of failure and embrace it; make it a part of your philosphy. Because it will happen where you fail in a performance; especially if you're going from memorized pieces. Remember that the worst that can
happen is that they cut your pay, laugh about it, and keep going (Barrett's Privateers is not a historical piece, but it's a favorite sea shanty of mine, sung it a hundred times if I've sung it once. On stage at the Mucky Duck, right up to the point where "Our cracked four pounders made an awful din," and the words left me. No way to recover. No words. So I sang "La la la la lalala la la la..." and cut to the chorus and concluded with "That was Barrett's Privateers as sung by Janice Joplin." Laughter and the crowd enjoyed it. Failure will happen. They won't crucify you. You aren't getting paid for this gig. Just do your best and drink your beer).</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Arial; color: blue;">In service to the dream with a song in my heart, I am</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">HL Gerald of Leesville</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">A bard of Stargate</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Kingdom: Ansteorra</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <hr tabindex="-1" align="center" size="2" width="100%"> </span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:
12pt;"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> bards-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:bards-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Liz Wilson<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, April 27, 2008 5:44 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ansteorran Bardic list</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Bards] Filking</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I am new to the SCA and the Bards List but I love Bardic competitions and</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
10pt; font-family: Arial;">performances. I'd like to try it myself although I am a very average singer.</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I probably could learn to tell stories. I don't have much fear of public performance</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">and speaking because, although I am now a stay at home mom, in mundane life</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I was an attorney for 15 years (and I'm still licensed). If you can do appellate </span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">argument or argument
in a courtroom when real money is at stake you can </span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">probably do Bardic (although not necessarily well!)</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">At any rate,one of my questions relates to Filking. If I Filk a melody, is it supposed</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">to be a period melody with SCA related words/theme or a non period melody with</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">SCA related words/theme? Or a period melody on any theme?</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">If I'm performing at a Bardic competition and my persona is still being</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">developed, do I have to stay in persona? For example, if I compete at</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Springfaire, and my persona is 1315, can I do anything in period or am I</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">supposed to limit myself to what would have been heard in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region> in 1315 (if</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">anyone even knows what would have been heard!) Can I just be kind of a</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">generalized performer and do things in period from any time frame?</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">What happens if I do something that is out of period (but not obviously</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">so)?</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Also I am very familiar with repetoire from Scarborough Faire because I've been</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">going for 20 plus years and I have a lot of recordings. However these songs are</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">not always in period. For example, the words to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region> the Brave, while</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">lovely, were actually written in the 20th century, and yet this song is performed</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">at Scarby. Is it appropriate to perform at a Bardic competition or not?</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Any ideas on how I find out what is in period and what</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">isn't for the Scarby or any other repetoire,</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">and what WOULD be appropriate at a Bardic competition and what</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">wouldn't? I have a nice piece I am trying to prepare for Springfaire but I</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">don't know how to find out if it is period, other than just trying to do some</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">searches on the Internet about it to see what I can find
out.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Any advice to a new Bard, who is taking herself way too</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">seriously, would be appreciated.</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Christianna (hope they won't laugh at me)</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div>
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