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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hearty congratulations to Cier! I'm sorry I was not able to hear this obviously wonderful performance.</blockquote>
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<div>I would make one small correction... Bonwick does have a titled bard. Lord Quill holds it currently.</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
<div>~Mea</div><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. News from Champions of Bonwick. (Cisco Cividanes)<br> Message: 1<br>Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:54:08 -0500<br>
From: "Cisco Cividanes" <<a href="mailto:engtrktwo@gmail.com">engtrktwo@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: [Bards] News from Champions of Bonwick.<br>To: <a href="mailto:mooneschadowe@yahoogroups.com">mooneschadowe@yahoogroups.com</a>, "Ansteorran Bardic list"<br>
<<a href="mailto:bards@lists.ansteorra.org">bards@lists.ansteorra.org</a>><br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:a0142d8e0804262054u92d062w2fb97c11ca6ea1e2@mail.gmail.com">a0142d8e0804262054u92d062w2fb97c11ca6ea1e2@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>This goes out to Mooneschadowe, with the appropriate echo out to all<br>of the kingdom's bards.<br><br>The Barony of Bonwick held a bardic competition today. By all accounts<br>
the competition was described as grueling, and past champions from<br>several groups were included on the list.<br><br>However, one person stepped forward and evidently took the title<br>outright before an audience that included all of the landed nobles of<br>
the north as well as the crown.<br><br>Nine year old Cier Barns (Liliana's Daughter), of the Provence of<br>Mooneschadowe, bested twelve adult competitors so soundly that she had<br>been forbidden by the landed nobles of the north from entering into<br>
any of their children's bardic competition after this day.<br><br>(note: I do not believe that Bonwick has an actual "titled" bard, but<br>from what I have heard, the competition was as hard and demanding as<br>
any of the titled matches Lilas or Liliana have seen)<br><br><br>Lord Ivo Blackhawk<br>Province of Mooneschadowe<br>Kingdom of Ansteorra<br>"God Save the King!"<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 05:44:17 -0500<br>From: "Liz Wilson" <<a href="mailto:ewilson618@tx.rr.com">ewilson618@tx.rr.com</a>><br>Subject: [Bards] Filking<br>To: "Ansteorran Bardic list" <<a href="mailto:bards@lists.ansteorra.org">bards@lists.ansteorra.org</a>><br>
Message-ID: <E14F14DBB52F47B6A752B9E9AA27C2B2@wilsonlt><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>I am new to the SCA and the Bards List but I love Bardic competitions and<br>performances. I'd like to try it myself although I am a very average singer.<br>
I probably could learn to tell stories. I don't have much fear of public performance<br>and speaking because, although I am now a stay at home mom, in mundane life<br>I was an attorney for 15 years (and I'm still licensed). If you can do appellate<br>
argument or argument in a courtroom when real money is at stake you can<br>probably do Bardic (although not necessarily well!)<br><br>At any rate,one of my questions relates to Filking. If I Filk a melody, is it supposed<br>
to be a period melody with SCA related words/theme or a non period melody with<br>SCA related words/theme? Or a period melody on any theme?<br><br>If I'm performing at a Bardic competition and my persona is still being<br>
developed, do I have to stay in persona? For example, if I compete at<br>Springfaire, and my persona is 1315, can I do anything in period or am I<br>supposed to limit myself to what would have been heard in Scotland in 1315 (if<br>
anyone even knows what would have been heard!) Can I just be kind of a<br>generalized performer and do things in period from any time frame?<br>What happens if I do something that is out of period (but not obviously<br>so)?<br>
<br>Also I am very familiar with repetoire from Scarborough Faire because I've been<br>going for 20 plus years and I have a lot of recordings. However these songs are<br>not always in period. For example, the words to Scotland the Brave, while<br>
lovely, were actually written in the 20th century, and yet this song is performed<br>at Scarby. Is it appropriate to perform at a Bardic competition or not?<br><br>Any ideas on how I find out what is in period and what<br>
isn't for the Scarby or any other repetoire,<br>and what WOULD be appropriate at a Bardic competition and what<br>wouldn't? I have a nice piece I am trying to prepare for Springfaire but I<br>don't know how to find out if it is period, other than just trying to do some<br>
searches on the Internet about it to see what I can find out.<br><br>Any advice to a new Bard, who is taking herself way too<br>seriously, would be appreciated.<br><br>Christianna (hope they won't laugh at me)<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>
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To: "'Ansteorran Bardic list'" <<a href="mailto:bards@lists.ansteorra.org">bards@lists.ansteorra.org</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:48148693.20018e0a.7ba4.ffff8a3b@mx.google.com">48148693.20018e0a.7ba4.ffff8a3b@mx.google.com</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Good morning.<br><br>Filking - it's what people do. I've filked, just about everyone here has<br>filked, and we are (in various stages of our careers) rather indiscriminate<br>
about it. Choose the tune that lends itself to the lyrics you create.<br>Think of it as practice for actual melodic composition. Depending on the<br>amount of work you want to put into this hobby, the hope is that eventually<br>
you will start composing original melodies to go with the lyrics. For those<br>who want to go a step further, research melodic rules of a certain portion<br>of music history and try to emulate that. In the end, do the things that<br>
bring joy while doing them.<br><br>Staying in period - This is a hobby and you should do what you want to do.<br>I cheated and created a persona for the late 1500s. That way I can go<br>through the various historical music repertoirs and claim them as historical<br>
research for my persona. I play tunes from 11 century through, Irish tunes,<br>pieces written from the past and current middle ages. I'm a music slut,<br>going so low as to volunteer to play "Hole In the Wall". Others may urge<br>
you to aspire to greater heights. I just urge people to increase their<br>repetoire of memorized songs (got nothing against book reading, but unless<br>it's done right, it ain't performing).<br><br>Rennfair repetoir - The songs commonly sung at Renn Faires will get you<br>
started, and it's a lot of what most of the SCA public knows. For many this<br>is "good enough" and there's no need to learn a whole lot more.<br>"Macyntire", even though Mistress Adelaide might be damned near alergic to<br>
it, is popular because a lot of people get to join in who may have no<br>musical talent whatsoever. It's not a song from the SCA periods, but it's<br>fun to sing, fun to join in, and .... It's fun. The interesting thing is<br>
that there is a LOT of good material within the time-stretch the SCA<br>"period" covers. It takes a little digging, a few questions asked here and<br>there, but there's a treasure-trove full of historical songs and tunes about<br>
that can keep an audience spell-bound (favorite moment # 177: Stargate Yule<br>bardic competition when a young lady performed the plainchant "Veni Veni<br>Emanuel" and was able to silence the whole hall).<br><br>
Bardic competition - A lot of what you might perform will depend on what the<br>current champion and their patrons require within the competitions. As<br>champion, I've gone from requiring different performance styles (singing,<br>
story-telling, recital, etc.) to sitting around a fire and judging from the<br>best performances. In each case, much of what I've used as a rule I took as<br>cues from my patrons (the baron/baroness or seneschal). Some will want a<br>
performer with a broad depth of styles, others wanted a good performer, hang<br>the different styles approach. To answer your question point-blank: If they<br>request "period" pieces only, you're going to lose with "Scotland the Brave"<br>
or "Minstrel Boy" if the judges have any say in it, but "Miri it is" will<br>work and "Star of the County Down" might.<br><br>I've had a few good teachers, and I'll see if I can't get you an actual list<br>
of web-spaces you can go to, but one in particular - Cantaria<br>(<a href="http://www.chivalry.com/cantaria/">http://www.chivalry.com/cantaria/</a>), is at least a starting point. You will<br>probably receive more advice, Christiana, than you will know what to do<br>
with. The game I play will not necessarily fit your likes or dislikes. I<br>encourage people who are so inclined to perform. The good ones will be<br>asked to repeat what they do, or find something new, or be pointed toward a<br>
piece that might suit them (or not). I advise performers to pick and choose<br>from what they like to do, learn it, and keep learning new pieces. Perform.<br>If they have instrumental talent, I encourage them to perform more! As to<br>
taking one's self too seriously, I would like to encourage you to take up<br>the concept of failure and embrace it; make it a part of your philosphy.<br>Because it will happen where you fail in a performance; especially if you're<br>
going from memorized pieces. Remember that the worst that can happen is<br>that they cut your pay, laugh about it, and keep going (Barrett's Privateers<br>is not a historical piece, but it's a favorite sea shanty of mine, sung it a<br>
hundred times if I've sung it once. On stage at the Mucky Duck, right up to<br>the point where "Our cracked four pounders made an awful din," and the words<br>left me. No way to recover. No words. So I sang "La la la la lalala la la<br>
la..." and cut to the chorus and concluded with "That was Barrett's<br>Privateers as sung by Janice Joplin." Laughter and the crowd enjoyed it.<br>Failure will happen. They won't crucify you. You aren't getting paid for<br>
this gig. Just do your best and drink your beer).<br><br>In service to the dream with a song in my heart, I am<br>HL Gerald of Leesville<br>A bard of Stargate<br>Kingdom: Ansteorra<br><br>_____<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:bards-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org">bards-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bards-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org">bards-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org</a>] On Behalf Of Liz Wilson<br>Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 5:44 AM<br>To: Ansteorran Bardic list<br>Subject: [Bards] Filking<br>
<br><br>I am new to the SCA and the Bards List but I love Bardic competitions and<br>performances. I'd like to try it myself although I am a very average<br>singer.<br>I probably could learn to tell stories. I don't have much fear of public<br>
performance<br>and speaking because, although I am now a stay at home mom, in mundane life<br>I was an attorney for 15 years (and I'm still licensed). If you can do<br>appellate<br>argument or argument in a courtroom when real money is at stake you can<br>
probably do Bardic (although not necessarily well!)<br><br>At any rate,one of my questions relates to Filking. If I Filk a melody, is<br>it supposed<br>to be a period melody with SCA related words/theme or a non period melody<br>
with<br>SCA related words/theme? Or a period melody on any theme?<br><br>If I'm performing at a Bardic competition and my persona is still being<br>developed, do I have to stay in persona? For example, if I compete at<br>
Springfaire, and my persona is 1315, can I do anything in period or am I<br>supposed to limit myself to what would have been heard in Scotland in 1315<br>(if<br>anyone even knows what would have been heard!) Can I just be kind of a<br>
generalized performer and do things in period from any time frame?<br>What happens if I do something that is out of period (but not obviously<br>so)?<br><br>Also I am very familiar with repetoire from Scarborough Faire because I've<br>
been<br>going for 20 plus years and I have a lot of recordings. However these songs<br>are<br>not always in period. For example, the words to Scotland the Brave, while<br>lovely, were actually written in the 20th century, and yet this song is<br>
performed<br>at Scarby. Is it appropriate to perform at a Bardic competition or not?<br><br>Any ideas on how I find out what is in period and what<br>isn't for the Scarby or any other repetoire,<br>and what WOULD be appropriate at a Bardic competition and what<br>
wouldn't? I have a nice piece I am trying to prepare for Springfaire but I<br>don't know how to find out if it is period, other than just trying to do<br>some<br>searches on the Internet about it to see what I can find out.<br>
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