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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=553471405-28042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Yah, but make the year 1573, and the ship a Spaniard, and
you're in ... sorta.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=553471405-28042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=553471405-28042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>G.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> bards-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org
[mailto:bards-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ken
Theriot<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:11 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Ansteorran
Bardic list'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bards] Filking <of course it's a long
reply!><BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Gerald,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">“And with one fat ball
the Yanks stove us in!!!!!!!” (which I’m sure you remembered 30 seconds
later</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">). But I can
rarely make it through that one without messing up SOMEWHERE</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">. Love, love,
love it!! But the opening line of….Oh the year was 1778 might JUST be a
little telling</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kenneth<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Gerald of
Leesville [mailto:gerald.of.leesville@gmail.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, April 27, 2008 8:59
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> '<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Ansteorran Bardic list</st1:PersonName>'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Bards] Filking <of course
it's a long reply!></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Good
morning.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Filking - it's what
people do. I've filked, just about everyone here has filked, and we are
(in various stages of our careers) rather indiscriminate about it. Choose
the tune that lends itself to the lyrics you create. Think of it as
practice for actual melodic composition. Depending on the amount of work
you want to put into this hobby, the hope is that eventually you will start
composing original melodies to go with the lyrics. For those who want to
go a step further, research melodic rules of a certain portion of music history
and try to emulate that. In the end, do the things that bring joy while
doing them.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Staying in period -
This is a hobby and you should do what you want to do. I cheated
and created a persona for the late 1500s. That way I can go through
the various historical music repertoirs and claim them as historical research
for my persona. I play tunes from 11 century through, Irish tunes, pieces
written from the past and current middle ages. I'm a music slut, going so
low as to volunteer to play "Hole In the Wall". Others may urge you to
aspire to greater heights. I just urge people to increase their repetoire
of memorized songs (got nothing against book reading, but unless it's done
right, it ain't performing).</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Rennfair repetoir - The
songs commonly sung at Renn Faires will get you started, and it's a lot of what
most of the SCA public knows. For many this is "good enough" and there's
no need to learn a whole lot more. "Macyntire", even though Mistress
Adelaide might be damned near alergic to it, is popular because a lot of people
get to join in who may have no musical talent whatsoever. It's not a song
from the SCA periods, but it's fun to sing, fun to join in, and .... It's
fun. The interesting thing is that there is a LOT of good material within
the time-stretch the SCA "period" covers. It takes a little digging, a few
questions asked here and there, but there's a treasure-trove full of historical
songs and tunes about that can keep an audience spell-bound (favorite moment #
177: Stargate Yule bardic competition when a young lady performed the plainchant
"Veni Veni Emanuel" and was able to silence the whole
hall).</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bardic competition - A
lot of what you might perform will depend on what the current champion and their
patrons require within the competitions. As champion, I've gone from
requiring different performance styles (singing, story-telling, recital, etc.)
to sitting around a fire and judging from the best performances. In each
case, much of what I've used as a rule I took as cues from my patrons (the
baron/baroness or seneschal). Some will want a performer with a broad
depth of styles, others wanted a good performer, hang the different styles
approach. To answer your question point-blank: If they request "period"
pieces only, you're going to lose with "<st1:country-region
w:st="on">Scotland</st1:country-region> the Brave" or "Minstrel Boy" if the
judges have any say in it, but "Miri it is" will work and "Star of the
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">County</st1:PlaceType>
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Down</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>" might.
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I've had a few good
teachers, and I'll see if I can't get you an actual list of web-spaces you can
go to, but one in particular - Cantaria (<A
href="http://www.chivalry.com/cantaria/">http://www.chivalry.com/cantaria/</A>),
is at least a starting point. You will probably receive more advice,
Christiana, than you will know what to do with. The game I play will not
necessarily fit your likes or dislikes. I encourage people who are so
inclined to perform. The good ones will be asked to repeat what they do,
or find something new, or be pointed toward a piece that might suit them (or
not). I advise performers to pick and choose from what they like to do,
learn it, and keep learning new pieces. Perform. If they have
instrumental talent, I encourage them to perform more! As to taking one's
self too seriously, I would like to encourage you to take up the concept of
failure and embrace it; make it a part of your philosphy. Because it will
happen where you fail in a performance; especially if you're going from
memorized pieces. Remember that the worst that can happen is that they cut
your pay, laugh about it, and keep going (Barrett's Privateers is not a
historical piece, but it's a favorite sea shanty of mine, sung it a hundred
times if I've sung it once. On stage at the Mucky Duck, right up to
the point where "Our cracked four pounders made an awful din," and the words
left me. No way to recover. No words. So I sang "La la la la
lalala la la la..." and cut to the chorus and concluded with "That was Barrett's
Privateers as sung by Janice Joplin." Laughter and the crowd enjoyed
it. Failure will happen. They won't crucify you. You aren't getting
paid for this gig. Just do your best and drink your
beer).</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In service to the dream
with a song in my heart, I am</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">HL Gerald of
Leesville</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A bard of
Stargate</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kingdom:
Ansteorra</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
bards-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:bards-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Liz
Wilson<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, April 27,
2008 5:44 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ansteorran Bardic list</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Bards]
Filking</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am new to the SCA and the Bards
List but I love Bardic competitions and</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">performances. I'd like to try
it myself although I am a very average
singer.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I probably could learn to tell
stories. I don't have much fear of public
performance</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">and speaking because, although I am
now a stay at home mom, in mundane life</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was an attorney for 15 years (and
I'm still licensed). If you can do
appellate </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">argument or argument in a courtroom
when real money is at stake you can </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">probably do Bardic (although
not necessarily well!)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">At any rate,one of my questions
relates to Filking. If I Filk a melody, is it
supposed</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">to be a period melody with SCA
related words/theme or a non period melody
with</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SCA related words/theme? Or a period
melody on any theme?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If I'm performing at a Bardic
competition and my persona is still being</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">developed, do I have to stay in
persona? For example, if I compete at</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Springfaire, and my persona is
1315, can I do anything in period or am
I</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">supposed to limit myself to what
would have been heard in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region> in 1315
(if</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">anyone even knows what would have
been heard!) Can I just be kind of a</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">generalized performer and do things
in period from any time frame?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What happens if I do something that
is out of period (but not obviously</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">so)?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Also I am very familiar with
repetoire from Scarborough Faire because I've
been</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">going for 20 plus years and I have a
lot of recordings. However these songs
are</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">not always in period. For
example, the words to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region> the Brave,
while</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">lovely, were actually written in the
20th century, and yet this song is performed</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">at Scarby. Is it appropriate
to perform at a Bardic competition or not?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any ideas on how I find out what is
in period and what</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">isn't for the Scarby or any other
repetoire,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">and what WOULD be appropriate at a
Bardic competition and what</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">wouldn't? I have a nice
piece I am trying to prepare for Springfaire but
I</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">don't know how to find out if it is
period, other than just trying to do some</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">searches on the Internet about it to
see what I can find out.</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any advice to a new Bard, who is
taking herself way too</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">seriously, would be
appreciated.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Christianna (hope they won't laugh
at me)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>