<DIV>Thank you for your input, I've been a bit thin spread on the lists and also have Kaz down from Small Grey Bear to visit. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> I must tell Peter that I wasn't using the Wikipedia definition. I was using our SCA version's definition. Sorry for the lack of clarification as I have been a bit stressed. I also meant that we have documentation for most of OUR things, not the real Goliard but the things we're using during OUR dealings. Sorry bout that too, I'm such a baka! heh heh. We are intending to use our Goliard group a bit differently than the original one but I assure you that it is all in fun and we wish to help and aid Ansteorra, not divide it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-Xue</DIV><p>