[Bg-dance] "Lull Me Beyond Thee" as a Candle Dance

[Susan Scott]

There's a dance to "Road to Lisdoonvarna"?  Ooh, I want to learn that one.

Gwenneth

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:50 PM,  <star7fisher at aol.com> wrote:
> You wanted thoughts pertinent to Lull Me Beyond Thee, right?  Not my opinion
> about your epithet...or is it epitaph--whichever one doesn't include
> death...
>
> I agree that before we modify for candle dance purposes, I want to get the
> "How to dance it as Right as we think" done.  For example, that last chorus
> when we discussed it should be a cast through other couple and back to
> place.
>
> Let's concentrate on getting it down right, much like we've done with
> Argeers and Road to Lisdoonvarna.
>
> Meanwhile, someone suggested talking to someone about Spanish (or new Spain)
> type dances to suit theme for Candlemas.
>
> In November we'll start discussing Candle dance specifically and use the
> Intermediate hour to finalize styling whatever we choose to the dance.
> We've done other dances that we modified for the candle dance so we'll
> probably modify what we dance to best suite the lighting considerations.
>
> BTW, I sent Gaston a heads up of the three dances we discussed last time and
> some links to sheet music of LMBT.  So we may resolve the speed issue when
> dancing with the musicians.  Meanwhile if we can find or manufacture a
> faster version, let's pursue that.
>
> Thems my thoughts
>
> Star
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
> To: bg-dance at ansteorra.org
> Sent: Tue, Oct 5, 2010 2:12 pm
> Subject: [Bg-dance] "Lull Me Beyond Thee" as a Candle Dance
>
> I've done some research on "Lull Me Beyond Thee" (LMBT), alias
> "Lulling Beyond Thee" in the Playford 1651 table of contents. I think
> I have a better handle on the issues (though I've not yet looked for a
> faster recording).
>
> It was suggested that it might make a good Candle Dance for
> Candlemas. I've thought about it for a bit, and I have a couple of
> concerns:
>
> (1) There is a lot of hand-holding in this dance: fall back and
> forward in a line, hands around (a circle). The problem I see is
> candles.
>
> A notion mentioned at the last practice was to replace the hands
> around with a right-hand star. Similar changes could be made
> elsewhere.
>
> After thinking on it, I'd suggest not making significant changes that
> are contrary to Playford while we're learning a dance, because then we
> can't dance it at other events or with people who already know it.
>
> If it's a part that's not in Playford: I've already seen major
> differences in parts of LMBT that are unclear and have significant
> variation, so these could be justified as "well, that's our local
> reconstruction". But, for example, "hands round to your places" is in
> Playford.
>
> If it was a question of mutating, for example, Heart's Ease, I'd see
> no problem with it, because experienced and inexperienced people here
> have some dances down cold (though, contrarywise, we have them so cold
> that it might be hard to consistently remember to do a variation).
>
> We might do small variations, like (for example) instead of holding
> hands in a line, fist-bump-and-press at waist / torso height, or it's
> the responsibility of the person with the free hand to carefully grab
> or touch the next person's wrist.
>
> (2) The parts from Playford that are actually clear indicate that
> there are turns with no time provided for them. The problems I see
> are (a) the Georgetown site's slick floor and (b) candles perhaps
> being blown out in a fast movement.
>
> On the other hand, Le Bens has a couple of zero-time turns (double to
> meet your partner, double to trade lanes, the person now outside has
> to pivot 180 in at most one beat stolen from the "double to trade
> lanes"), and they worked fine.
>
> If we do last time's slow rendition by Country Capers, these problems
> are mitigated, but they are replaced by the "I Can't Drive 55" problem
> some people adduced after a couple of tries last time. (Though
> dancing English Country slowly might be an interesting exercise in
> learning form and style.)
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Danihel "When I dance that slow, you know it's hard to steer
> And I can't get my tush out of second gear" Lincolinum
> -- Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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