[Bg-dance] Lazy Robin

[Charlene Charette]

By "Maltese Bransle" I'm assuming you mean Turkish Bransle danced to
Schiarazula Marazula. I've never seen the real Maltese Bransle danced
at an event in Ansteorra. I'm not seeing any resemblance. The Turkish
Bransle moves from side to side and inward and outward; the dance in
the video uses footwork to move continually to the left.

--Perronnelle



On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Zach Most <clermont1348 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a related note, doesn't this modern dance look and sound a lot like our Maltese Bransle?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSStGufiVsE&feature=related
>   I like the fancy foot work.  If you watch to the end you can get a glimpse of where our perception of a French maid's outfit comes from in Bretton traditional dress.
>   Gaston
>
>
>
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> From: "tmcd at panix.com" <tmcd at panix.com>
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:27 PM
> Subject: [Bg-dance] Lazy Robin
>
> My question seems to have gotten lost, and it might be helpful if I
> gave some background.
>
> My question is
> - what do people in the Music Guild think about the style of the
>   tune Lazy Robin?  Is it implausible for period?
> because I'd like to choreograph something period-style to it.
> I am not
> - asking anyone to learn how to play the tune
> - asking anyone to learn either of the two dances that I've seen for
>   this tune
>
> I finally converted the Ansteorran Kingdom Dance Workshop 1990 tape to
> CD.  On it is a tune labelled Lazy Robin.  I really like the tune, and
> I really liked the dance we did to it, and (pace Star) it was popular
> in the Steppes for years.
>
> But the version we did was more or less (thanks for the URL, Cecilia)
> <http://www.phantomranch.net/folkdanc/dances/robinddi.htm>, which
> doesn't much look like any period dance I've seen.
>
> I started to think about mutating it into a bransle, but there's no
> point if the tune itself is grossly out of period.  It would be like
> designing a fine houppelande without bothering to learn that the cloth
> is ripstop nylon.  But I know little about period music styles.  Hence
> my question.  I shouldn't think about choreography until afer getting
> a positive answer to that.
>
> In short, what Gwenneth said on the BG Dance list.
>
> The version from the tape is
>     http://www.panix.com/~tmcd/lazy_robin.ogg
>     http://www.panix.com/~tmcd/lazy_robin.mp3
>
> I only pointed out
>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHVUe01_psdY
> because of the music track, not the visuals, because
> - unlike the versions from the tape, it's not a synthesizer.
>   Some of the synth music on the tape makes my ears bleed.
> - the tune (1, 3, and 5 in the medley) has a two-bar difference
>   from the tape version.
> The dance in that video, with the arching, is like nothing I've seen
> before and I don't see how to make it periodical.  (If you like
> arching, request Trenchmore.)
>
> Gaston wrote:
>> But there's a ton of material from the era that we haven't
>> explored.
> I've run the Inns of Court suite past the dancers, and tried a few
> different Italian ren dances, and gotten almost nowhere.
> But that's a discussion for another time.
> Heck, I used to feel good about bransles, but Mistress Urraca from the
> Middle says that the SCA Horses' Bransle and Maltese Bransle are SCA
> choreographies.
>
> Cecilia wrote:
>> I'm sure we could adapt the Macarena to something resembling period
>> and do that, too.  Call it a bransle!
> Star says that the usual SCA practice was to call an SCA invention a
> "pavane", though I see in the AKDW 1900 booklet a "tourdion and basse
> dance" that should have been prosecuted under truth-in-labelling laws.
>
> Danielis de Lindocolina
> --
> Tim McDaniel; Reply-To: tmcd at panix.com
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