[Bonwicke] Points race & Sigrunn

Rob rose onetruewolf at hotmail.com
Thu May 8 20:23:20 PDT 2003


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Sigrunn, if you could contact me privately I would apreciate it.

As far as it goes, Western Sentinel being official or not may no longer
matter.  I would ask everyone concerned to adopt a wait and see attitude on
the matter until after the weekend.  Actually I should have something by
evening court.

Either way, no matter what happened with Sentinel.  If it was in fact an
official event and the points didn't get recorded, the fault lies with me.  If
in fact the event was not official, again as autocrat the fault is ultimately mine.
So let's see what happens on Saturday, and then we will know further the best
course to take.

Ian

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Jacque Light"
Reply-To: bonwicke at ansteorra.org
To:
Subject: RE: [Bonwicke] Points race
Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 21:33:33 -0500
Ryah, if I remember correctly, and I may be wrong...
I believe it to be a Kingdom requirement as well that the event be listed in
the BlackStar in order for it to count as an official event. I tried to get
into the Seneshal's handbook to look for you, but it would not load on
acrobat tonight. We (Blacklake) did not fullfill the requirements for our
event to be counted as an official one. The SCA in its quaint ass backwards
state, still believes email to be rather like the Spanish Inquistions..what
a show....and does not allow email flyers to count for nada. In addition,
many things sent officially...as in snail mail, conveniently disappear in
route to the places they are supposed to go. Strange. I send cards,
letters, and all other forms of things like that to people all over the
country, but somehow we could never seem to get forms and stuff like that to
go thru to the officers needing them. /steps off soapbox and takes a breath
Ulrica
-----Original Message-----
From: bonwicke-admin at ansteorra.org [mailto:bonwicke-admin at ansteorra.org]On
Behalf Of estarkey
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:47 AM
To: bonwicke at ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Bonwicke] Points race
i think that y'all ought to recheck the definition of official sca event.
was it on the official calendar in the BlackStar? YES
did a flyer with the place, date, and time get published in the BlackStar?
NO
i believe that Sentinel met all the requirements for a Society event as in
Corpora II.A.
That a full announcement of date, time, place was not published in the
appropriate corporate publication (which is generally the Blackstar for
Ansteorra) as per Corpora IIC -which is only required for formal actcions
and announcements with long-term impact on the Society (ie, Crown tourneys
and law) doesn't have anything to do with Sentinal not being an official SCA
event.
Might not have been a flyer out in the Black Star, but Sentinel is one of
the recognized "defender" events in the Western Region. We sure got the
email out on the WR list that it was happening.
It is not like Sentinel was a secret meeting that only a few knew about and
could get points, which i suppose was the reason for the "only official
events" agreement.
Sentinel, as Black Lake's sponsored event should not be tossed out because
of a mistake on the part of one person.
Ryah, who is not from BlackLake, and didn't get any points from Sentinel.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob rose"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Bonwicke] Points race
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Ok, there are some things i guess i need to clear up about the points race.
Sorry about any misdirection on my part.
Number 1. I was told that sentinnel was not an official event, due to
things
beyond the control of the autocrat. The staff and i had determined that
only
official events would be counted in the points race, so it is with regret
that
i inform you that western sentinnel cannot be included.
Number 2. When I sent the original update on the divisions, i only sent the
top few places. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Number 3. We have gotten the funding for passdown prizes. We are going
with
capes of ansteorran gold with the black star of ansteorra and the crescent
moon of the western region. I would like to have keeper prizes donated by
the
shires/barony of the region. input would be a good thing.
Number 4. Just because people are wondering.......here are the complete
rules
and the charts to show where everyone is. Soon we will have the site
running,
i promise.
2003 Western Region Points Series
The Western Region Points Series will be divided into subdivisions: Western
Archer, Western Artisan, Western Bard, Western Champion, and Western
Defender.
The naming of these titles will be awarded on the points basis detailed
below.
General Rules:
Participant need not be a paid member to receive points.
Participant who accumulates the most points in each respective field will be
named with the title for that field. The titles named shall be: Western
Defender (Chivalric), Western Champion (Rapier), Western Artisan (Arts &
Science), Western Archer (Archery), and Western Bard (Bardic).
A participant may gain points in more than one division by participating in
more than one division.
Terms of the Championship will run from Gothic to Gothic. (i.e.: The first
event after Gothic will be the first event at which points are available to
be
earned.) Winners in each division will be announced at Gothic Wars each
year.
Points will be available at each official event in the Region. Exceptions to
this are: Crown Tournaments, Coronations, or any other Kingdom sponsored
event
held in the Western Region. No competition at those events will be for
points.
Points gained will be cumulative from event to event. Points will be tallied
and totaled, with the number of points for each category earned at each
event
shown, and a final column showing the number of points earned at that point
in
the season.
These records will always be open to the populace. However, it will always
be
requested that they be viewed in the company of a member of the committee.
Once tallied, the points shall stand unless challenged within 1 calendar
month
and just cause is shown to change them. In the event of a challenge, a
review
panel consisting of all current committee members shall be convened to
investigate. All findings of the committee will be final. All claims made
after that month will be considered to be null and void.
The Committee:
The committee will be made up of 7 people. One person from each Group in the
region and one chair person.
A committee session cannot be convened with less than 5 current committee
members present. Should a time arise when there are not 5 members present
for
a meeting, the meeting shall be postponed unless one or more of the missing
members have sent a suitable replacement to stand in and be the voice of the
missing member(s). At no time will a meeting take place in which there are
more than 3 substitute members.
Each member of the committee will have the responsibility of ensuring that
the
points awarded at an event hosted by their Group are accurate. They will
then
pass this information on to the chairperson who will then update all records
to reflect the new gathering of points.
Members of the committee will not have a term limit, but the chair of the
committee will have a term of two years. The committee will convene and
appoint a new chair from the current committee.
All new members of the committee, (i.e. replacements for members who have,
for
any reason, left the committee) will be voted on prior to admittance into
the
committee.
In the event of a tie vote, the replacement will be found to be unsuitable
at
that time, and a new replacement will be discussed.
Should a situation arise that is not covered within the bounds of these
rules,
a decision will be made by the members of the committee as soon as possible.
If a quorum is in attendance, a decision will be made at that event. Should
there be less than 5 members present, the committee will place that order of
business in a hold status until 5 or more members may be accounted for
through
any communicative method.
Eligibility of Participants:
Participant must be (or have been) on site at the event in question in order
to gain points in their division.
Points will be awarded to any and all those who participate.
Participant must be a paid SCA member in order to receive a Title at the end
of the Championship year.
Prior to being awarded any Title, participants must show a valid SCA
membership card as proof of SCA membership. A copy of a check, a receipt, a
returned 3x5 card showing that the membership has been paid will not be
deemed
as acceptable in this matter. (This Rule is not open to negotiation of any
form).
Should a current Title holder leave the Kingdom not to return with their
Championship term, they shall be required to surrender any and all regalia
associated with this award. The title shall be passed to the next highest
eligible points holder in that division.
Under extreme circumstances, the committee reserves the right to remove any
Title(s). Only the committee can determine what constitutes extreme.
WESTERN DEFENDER (CHIVALRIC)/WESTERN CHAMPION (RAPIER)
At Gothic Wars 2003, the inaugural Western Defender and Western Champion
will
be named. The person who scores the most points during the 2003 Championship
season will be named, provided that they have met the eligibility
requirements.
Points will awarded based on the following schedule:
One point for entering the list
An additional point for each round in the tournament that the participant
wins.
One final point for the tournament winner.
CHIVALRIC
Participant
Melee's and Mayhem
11/8/02
Octavian
4/26/03
Mendersham
Defender 5/10/03
Passe de'
Arms 6/14/03
Sundered
Shield 7/5/03
Gothic Wars 8/30/03
Total
Points
Godfrey
10
8
0
0
0
0
18
Bran ap Griffith
9
8
0
0
0
0
Gustav Hastings
n/a
12
0
0
0
0
12
Raven
11
n/a
0
0
0
0
11
Chiang ti Lung
n/a
9
0
0
0
0
9
Gavin McIain
7
n/a
0
0
0
0
7
Jasper Codrington
n/a
5
0
0
0
0
5
Alaric
n/a
4
0
0
0
0
Garris the Blue
4
n/a
0
0
0
0
4
Guillermo
3
1
0
0
0
0
4
Ian McCloud
n/a
4
0
0
0
0
4
Roland
4
n/a
0
0
0
0
4
Daniel McNeil
n/a
3
0
0
0
0
3
Gui de Beaumont
n/a
3
0
0
0
0
3
Kern
n/a
3
0
0
0
0
3
Ryah
n/a
3
0
0
0
0
3
Voltier
n/a
3
0
0
0
0
3
Agnarr Thorvaldson
n/a
1
0
0
0
0
Galen the Crazed
n/a
1
0
0
0
0
1
Qara Gan
n/a
1
0
0
0
0
1
RAPIER
Participant
Melee's and Mayhem
11/8/02
Octavian
4/26/03
Mendersham
Defender 5/10/03
Passe de'
Arms 6/14/03
Sundered
Shield 7/5/03
Gothic Wars 8/30/03
Total
Points
Marquet de la Hyet
n/a
4
0
0
0
0
Byron Du Bois
n/a
5
0
0
0
0
Margaret
n/a
9
0
0
0
0
Tishero Koi
n/a
8
0
0
0
0
Muiriath ingen Carthiac
n/a
2
0
0
0
0
Richard
n/a
5
0
0
0
0
William Cameron
n/a
4
0
0
0
0
Seamus Finnegean
n/a
4
0
0
0
0
Elewys
n/a
2
0
0
0
0
Angus Matheson
n/a
1
0
0
0
0
WESTERN ARCHER
At Gothic Wars 2003, the inaugural Western Archer will be named. The person
who scores the most points during the 2003 Championship season will be
named,
provided that they have met the eligibility requirements.
Points will awarded based on the following schedule
20 points - 1st Place
15 points - 2nd Place
10 points - 3rd Place
5 points - each entrant
Participant
Melee's and Mayhem
11/8/02
Octavian
4/26/03
Mendersham
Defender 5/10/03
Passe de'
Arms 6/14/03
Sundered
Shield 7/5/03
Gothic Wars 8/30/03
Total
Points
William Cameron
n/a
5
0
0
0
0
5
Cahira
n/a
5
0
0
0
0
5
Elewys
n/a
5
0
0
0
0
5
Toshiro
n/a
20
0
0
0
0
2
Murran
n/a
5
0
0
0
0
5
WESTERN ARTISAN
At Gothic Wars 2003, the inaugural Western Artisan will be named. The person
who scores the most points during the 2003 Championship season will be
named,
provided that they have met the eligibility requirements.
No points will be received on a piece which has been entered at a previous
Western Region event within the Championship year.
Points will awarded based on the following schedule
20 points - 1st Place
15 points - 2nd Place
10 points - 3rd Place
5 points - each entrant
Participant
Melee's and Mayhem
11/8/02
Octavian
4/26/03
Mendersham
Defender 5/10/03
Passe de'
Arms 6/14/03
Sundered
Shield 7/5/03
Gothic Wars 8/30/03
Total
Points
Glorious Hund
n/a
20
0
0
0
0
Serafina de Gratia
n/a
15
0
0
0
0
Angus Matheson
n/a
10
0
0
0
0
Chaing Ti Lung
n/a
5
0
0
0
0
Kate Hyte
n/a
5
0
0
0
0
WESTERN BARD
At Gothic Wars 2003, the inaugural Western Bard will be named. The person
who
scores the most points during the 2003 Championship season will be named,
provided that they have met the eligibility requirements.
Points will awarded based on the following schedule
20 points - 1st Place
15 points - 2nd Place
10 points - 3rd Place
5 points - each entrant
Participant
Melee's and Mayhem
11/8/02
Octavian
4/26/03
Mendersham
Defender 5/10/03
Passe de'
Arms 6/14/03
Sundered
Shield 6/??/03
Gothic Wars 8/30/03
Total
Points
Timothy of Glasinberg
n/a
15
0
0
0
0
Toshiro Koi
n/a
15
0
0
0
0
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