[Bordermarch] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11 a rebuttal

[Troy Allen]

one of the reasons the movie may have had some controversy about being shown 
is that there is a law( or so i have heard recently) that this close to an 
election if any video or television show about one candidate  is shown, an 
equal amount of airtime must be given to all of the candidates. that way, a 
rich candidate could not flood our television programs or theaters with one 
sided propaganda. all i am trying to say is that there would definitely not 
be any attempt to ban the movie, but more likely it had trouble being 
released due to election year laws. i do believe however that there is no 
truth whatsoever to it being banned because of  a slanderous script. it is 
well known that Mr. Moore doesn't agree with the republican party, and this 
film isn't the first slash in his attack of President Bush. Mr. Moore, if 
you recall, made an attack on president bush at the oscars live on national 
television immediately after his election. in  his acceptance speech at the 
oscars he made the statement that bush was a fictitious president elected in 
a false election. therefore, it would also make sense that this film isn't 
only about iraq, but just another cheap attempt to openly express his 
contempt for Bush.  what this says to me is that Michael Moore is doing 
nothing more than using Iraq as an excuse to slander bush out of 
re-election. whatever the circumstances about the war, this film, our 
president, or the upcoming election try to keep this in mind Mr. Moore, if 
you don't like how things are being done, do it yourself. this is a 
democracy anybody can run for president. if you think you can do better, 
then try.  i personally am completely unaffiliated in the political field. i 
go with the candidate that i think will get the job done the best. if it 
were up to me, senator McCain would have been the president not bush. but 
that isn't our current situation now is it? we have the president that we 
elected by popular opinion. rightr now all we can do is hope for the safe 
return of our friends and family overseas( this one is for Brian! who's tour 
should be up at the end of this year!)and remember that they did volunteer, 
and wouldn't be there if they didn't want to go. so with that in mind, i 
leave this famous quote for Mr. Moore,"Know your role and shut your mouth!"


>From: "charles netterville" <cnetterville at ih2000.net>
>To: "kandace harris" <thetexladi at sbcglobal.net>,"jackie Leslie" 
><jackie_leslie at hotmail.com>,"Max" <matrix360 at yahoo.com>,"richard &drebra 
>Parrish" <armand_caitrin at juno.com>,"Karen Picou" 
><kladd at houston.rr.com>,"amy" <amyfryar at yahoo.com>,"buddy" 
><troy_allen1 at hotmail.com>,"darren&cindy" <cdpicou at sbcglobal.net>,"Amy 
>Eckert" <breenablossom at yahoo.com>,"Robert Isaacson" <risaac9056 at aol.com>
>Subject: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11  a rebuttal
>Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 15:55:40 -0500
>
>Kandace,
>     First of all you need to know what you're forwarding here. Michael 
>Moore is a Marxist who would like nothing more than to see this country run 
>solely by the government. He's one of those leftist radicals who want 
>capitalism and free enterprise banned and supports gun control, abortion 
>and has hated the republican party and everyone else that stands for 
>limited government and increased personal responsibility since his youth.
>This is not the first propaganda film he's generated and it certainly won't 
>be the last.
>The first thing that should be corrected is that the White house made NO 
>attempt to ban this, or any other film being produced at this time or any 
>other. We as Americans have the freedom of speech in this country 
>regardless if they're trying
>to slander the good name of our country, our president and our military.
>Almost two dozen of the ( facts ) that this militant proscribes as truth 
>have been determined to be either outright fabrications or such a stretch 
>of the original truth that there's no way to discern where the truth starts 
>and Michael's fable begins.
>This is an election year so we all expect the Democrats to pull out all the 
>stops to try and regain the power of the Executive, the Senate and the 
>House branches of the government, however, it's up to us to arm ourselves 
>with the facts and truth of Michael Moore, the left and what the new 
>Democratic party stands for.
>I can sympathize because I too have been raised Democratic and I still 
>believe in the values set forth by the founding Democratic party. 
>Unfortunately, the current representatives of that party do not.
>It's time for each of to have the courage to cross party boundaries and 
>support the values and ideals that our founding fathers set forth and not 
>pigeon hole ourselves into a one party right, one party wrong mentality as 
>Mr. Moore would have us believe.
>For instance, I know he doesn't care for the idea of the war, and who 
>really does like war, right? But if you'll think back, none of his 
>assertions make much sense.
>We went to Iraq because of 17 U.N. resolutions that had been broken, 
>300,000 of his own countrymen slaughtered in just the previous year and a 
>direct threat to the world in the form of an attack on Kuwait as the 
>primary cause of action. The fact that everyone from Bush Sr., Bill Clinton 
>and the world intelligence for years has been claiming W.M.D.s , not just 
>our current President. The left would love for us to believe this and use 
>it as just cause to fire our president in the next election. And if these 
>charges held even the slightest truth, I would...
>The weapons that we've found have included a large supply of Uranium, but 
>since it wasn't refined or in a warhead, we call it a WMD, let's see, 
>there's the hundreds of barrels of components to mix a variety of nerve 
>agents, poisons and other chemical agents, but they were only components 
>and could have been used for other things, surely they weren't the WMDs,
>We've found several hundred Serrin gas cartridges only recently mixed in 
>and about thousands of weapons and munitions dumps around the country but 
>we just don't seem to be hearing about this except for our friends who are 
>there now and are having them pointed at them so surely we can't call those 
>WMDs either. We also have the stockpile of nerve agent that had to be 
>purchased only a week ago when world intelligence learned that terrorists 
>were bidding on the stockpile and these agents bought them instead. Are 
>those the WMDs that don't exist??? I've given up trying but I won't give up 
>on my belief that this is the greatest country on the planet and we either 
>support it or have the decency top keep our mouths shut so that we don't 
>discourage our boys ( who by the way are all volunteers, they choose to be 
>there ) fighting to preserve our way of life.
>Keep this in mind too. We're being told that since only 57 % of Iraqis 
>support the new government and regime change that we're obviously doing the 
>wrong thing by being there. There was a war only 200 years ago that only 
>held a 17 % approval rating among the populace of the country but the 
>founders felt strongly enough about it to move forward and declare 
>independence anyway. That would have been the United States of America... 
>Aren't you glad our founding fathers didn't pay attention to the polls 
>either?
>Also, you've worn the uniform of service for our great nation. In all of 
>your studies, have you ever seen a war strategy that had an exit 
>strategy??? Come on now. We go in, we fight until we kill the bad guys or 
>they surrender, we sign terms of surrender , we rebuild what we blew up and 
>go home. That's been the exit strategy of every war we've ever fought in 
>regardless of who sent us there. By the way, the 20th century wars would be 
>a good course of study for anyone thinking of electing Kerry. The garbage 
>he's spewing in an attempt to get elected flies in the face of all that 
>we've known to work for hundreds of years and supports dry ideas proven 
>around the world NOT to work. Why repeat the mistakes of the past? .
>The fact that our enemies haven't surrendered yet is the only thing 
>standing in the way of our boys coming home, not any one decision made by 
>our president, his staff or any seated member of our government or our 
>armed forces.
>Be one of the ones who support the war effort, have the guts to pray for 
>our boy's safe return, have the guts to rise up and remind everyone that 
>separation of church and state does not mean separation of church FROM 
>state... One is still required to have the other. Self government means 
>self discipline and this democracy can't work unless it's people adhere to 
>the teachings of The Torah, Christ and Holy scripture. These Muslim 
>radicals seek to destroy Jews first, then Christians, and lastly the Pagans 
>and unbelievers, not Republicans or Democrats as the left would have us 
>believe.
>Also, I'm not asking that you take my word for any of this. Visit your 
>libraries, seek help through encyclopedias, read up on your history. Not 
>just any history but read war strategies and various presidential recounts. 
>Don't rely on the revisionist accounts of the biased media of today. We 
>play in the new middle ages. We preserve history and chivalry... Let this 
>not be any less of an act of chivalry than anything else we would seek to 
>accomplish. See the movie if you wish, but see it knowing it for what it 
>is. A left wing campaign ad and a slight against a great man and a great 
>leader.
>In joyful service I remain, In servitiae Christe et Coronae, Charles/ 
>Elrique
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: kandace harris
>   To: jackie Leslie ; Max ; Charles Netterville ; richard &drebra Parrish 
>; Karen Picou ; amy ; buddy ; darren&cindy ; Amy Eckert ; Robert Isaacson
>   Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 11:17 AM
>   Subject: Fwd: Fahrenheit 9/11
>
>
>   This was sent to me by My oldest friend I have...This is from a person 
>who DOES NOT have a "polical" bone in her intire body....her thoughts 
>suprised me because I did even know she voted ....just passing this on 
>...If your afinded by this ...then go see what everone is talking about.... 
>K....
>
>   Mktaylor755 at wmconnect.com wrote:
>     From: Mktaylor755 at wmconnect.com
>     Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 09:52:06 EDT
>     Subject: Fahrenheit 9/11
>     To: sbarringer at sbcglobal.net, Marble751 at wmconnect.com, 
>adasha at sbcglobal.net,
>     Terrinava at sbcglobal.net, wtaylor1 at worldnet.att.net, Tyson1031 at aol.com,
>     Behannon681 at aol.com
>
>     We went yesterday to see Fahrenheit 9/11 .  Anyone who is planning to 
>vote for Bush needs to see this film.  The White House tried to ban this 
>film from being show in the US after it won the Canned Film Festival but 
>couldn't because the contents of the film were proven to be factual.
>     This is a shocking film but it answers all the questions about why 
>Iraq and not Ben Laden as well as many other questions I had about the 
>problems today.
>     We owe it to our troops to go and see this film so we can take the 
>necessary steps to get them home and stop this insanity.
>
>     Marsha
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>   Kandyce of Oakcliff

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