So far as I can tell, the 8th works for us (although not for TE's)...& we love the idea of going to Dona Leah's; it's such an adventure for us :D -- Yours in Service, ~Jillian Saint Andre, OSTB * * *Beauty, strength, youth, are flowers but fading seen;* *Duty, faith, love, are roots, and ever green.* GEORGE PEELE, *Polyhymnia* **