[Bryn-gwlad] Helm liners

[Eule]

I linen coif will also go a long way to soaking up the sweat and that's
a whole lot easier to throw in the wash. Of course, you'll have to make
a new one eventually since linen shrinks quite a bit with washing over
time.
 
Eule/Steve
Unus sed Leo
 

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From: bryn-gwlad-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
[mailto:bryn-gwlad-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Sir Lyonel
Oliver Grace
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:28 PM
To: Eule
Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] Helm liners


Salut cozyns,
 
Master Eule says:
>>>>
 

The suspension comes from the peaks being sewn together (however, in my
case there are grommets at the top of every peak and I use a leather
lace to hold them together...makes it adjustable) at the top of your
head.  This transfers the blow to where the liner attaches to the edge
of the helmet...that's why I reinforce that part better than what is on
these websites.  The blow doesn't transfer the force down to the padding
(which is for your comfort, not force reducing) unless it is hard enough
to break the lacing around the edge (where it attaches to the helm) or
the leather lace breaks.
<<<<
 
Okay, that's a different matter and not exactly what the two posted
sites show. In any case, that design would still only rely upon
suspension to protect you from a downward blow. I face thrust, of
course, is already absorbed partly by suspension at the chin (the
forehead is still protected primarily by the padding above your brow.
The suspension against a downward blow, I will also grant, *does*
require stitching down the padding. Still sounds like a huge PItA to
have to restitch your helm after every cleaning.
 
For most helm designs, the padding system described still relies on the
absorption properties of the padding to protect your head from side and
back blows to the head. As I said before, the version shown on the Forth
Armoury site does not appear to have sufficient material on the sides to
achieve the absorption required by our safety regulations. 
 
>>>> 
I also forget to mention that I also use it for jousting.  In my
experience, this system works very well for hits all over the crown and
even thrusts to the face...much better than any close cell foam helmet
I've used.  Much more comfortable.
 
However, I'm only one case...there are many folks out there who fight on
the chivalric field much more than I who can attest to this better than
I....I picked this system up from Brian Price.
 
In my case, I don't actually use padding...but if I did, I'd probably
use horse hair since I can get plenty. ;-)
 
<<<< 
 
I don't doubt that the design is more comfortable (clearly allows air
flow around the wearer's head) than strips of closed-cell foam. 
 
lo vostre per vos servir
Meser Lyonel

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