[Bryn-gwlad] The other side (was: Upcoming Demo - Pirates of the Caribbean. Please read, I need input.

[James Crouchet]

I have seen a lot of people saying, "Yes, we SHOULD do this demo!" A lot 
of you seem to think someone said we should not. That is not what I saw. 
I have to wonder who actually took to time to read Corbin's note and 
consider what he said before firing off a note to disagree with him.

I would summarize his suggestions more like this:
- Let's do this demo but be careful not to mislead people into thinking 
the SCA does Pirates of the Caribbean.
- Let's see if we can get the Alamo Draft House to ALSO do a night more 
appropriate for our period. We have a LOT to choose from.

I find those reasonable suggestions. If anyone would like to read his 
note, you will find it quoted below.

Christian Doré


Corbin O Cathasaigh wrote:
> I am going to voice an opinion on this, and I'd like for it to be read 
> in depth rather than scanned and dismissed. I often find that to make 
> a good point, I have to use a lot of words, so I apologize for that in 
> advance. Here goes.
>  
> I both agree with and disagree with this demo, and I want to explain why.
>  
> On one hand, having a working relationship with the Drafthouse is a 
> good thing in my opinion. Having a venue for reaching out to people 
> who are already queueing up because of at least a passing interest in 
> thematic things (read: future medieval movie night) is a good thing. 
> Training ourselves--all of us--that we all need to pitch in to the 
> effort of attracting new, quality, interested members who will stay 
> and contribute and continue our dream, is a good thing.
>  
> What is not a good thing, though, is to do a piratey demo at a piratey 
> movie and say "Hey we're the SCA" and have people come out wanting to 
> do piratey things, and then be told summarily that no, you cannot do 
> piratey things in the SCA. It's false advertising. For that reason, I 
> do not think that we should do an SCA demo at this movie.
>  
> Now hold on, don't scoff and/or delete yet.
>  
> What I DO think we might want to consider, is to arrange an exchange 
> with the Drafthouse. Specifically, we will provide atmosphere for 
> their opening... -in pirate garb and not SCA garb-... in exchange for 
> them hosting a prime time medieval/renaissance movie theme night where 
> we would -then- come out in our full SCA regalia and be given 
> permission to heavily promote the SCA. Heck, even advertise it as 
> being "in conjunction with" the SCA.
>  
> In this way, we will establish a working relationship with the 
> Drafthouse, and also establish a pattern of each entity helping the 
> other out even when it isn't necessarily beneficial to both parties. 
> It is a more long-term investment approach.
>  
> However to see this as an opportunity to garner new people is to set 
> ourselves, and them, up for disappointment. Medieval reenactors and 
> pirate reenactors are two rather different breeds, most of the time. I 
> say this because exactly this idea has been tried before, with exactly 
> the result that I am elaborating.
>  
> Help the Drafthouse out, sure. Establish a working relationship with 
> them for future endeavors, great. But see this as a recruitment 
> opportunity? Tread that road lightly.
>  
> ...That said, I do think that there are likely enough people in the 
> SCA who also would enjoy being a pirate for a night that we could earn 
> a lot of gratitude from the Drafthouse. I liken it to that time that a 
> bunch of us worked Shamino's Peter Pan birthday party.
>  
> Anyway. That's my opinion, FWIW.
>  
> -Corbin
>
> */Lauren Tapia <siervua at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>     Hello and greetings!
>
>     Ok Good news, Alamo Draft house would like us to do a demo for
>     opening night of Pirates of the Caribbean.
>
>     They called me today, and I told them I would talk it over with
>     the group and give them a confirmation sometime this weekend.
>
>     Why didn't I just jump on it and confirm right away you ask? Well
>     they want us for opening night. I mean LITERALLY opening night.
>     They would like a group to do a demo with light fighting, and add
>     ambience. Only problem is they're talking about Thursday night for
>     the midnight showing. That means the demo would start between 10
>     and 11. With it being a Thursday and such would we even have a
>     turnout with work schedules and holidays?
>
>     This is the Alamo Draft House on Anderson Lane, aka The Village in
>     between Burnet and Mopac. They want "piratey stuff", as he put it,
>     I advised him that we play up until 1600's or so, and that this is
>     out of our period, but most late 16th century clothing would add a
>     great touch to their opening night, but those special touches
>     would be up to the individual person.
>
>     So I lay this before you. Personally I feel this would be a great
>     opportunity despite the time, as it would help us build a
>     relationship with Alamo, and if they ever decide to host a
>     "medieval movie night" (which I Subtly suggested) we would be able
>     to get in on that as well as any other movies that may suit.
>
>     So now I wait to see what you all think. Feel free to either email
>     me privately or call me at 767-0949. I would like to get an answer
>     to them by Sunday the latest.
>
>     -- 
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