[Bryn-gwlad] trenchers and plateware

[elizabeth@crouchet.com]

How about a flour tortilla? Acts like a paper plate. 

Claire 

On 5 Sep 2006 at 17:05, Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace wrote:

> Salut cozyns,
> 
> In a manner of speaking, Dora, yes, plates went out of style. More
> precisely, the practice of eating directly from plates went out of
> style. 
> The plates were often still there under the trenchers.
> 
> Consider the conditions: stewed and sauced dishes were a popular way
> to make 
> efficient use of spices. Fish in many parts of Europe was rarely
> fresh, 
> which meant it was bound to be pungent. Some dishes specifically
> called for 
> high meats (jugged hare, pheasant, and so forth), which also tended
> to leave 
> a distinct aroma in porous dishes.
> 
> Plates made of wood or ceramic were difficult or impossible to clean
> due to 
> their porosity (ceramic glazes tended to be lower temperature 
> affairs--something like raku). Metal dishes tend add unpleasant
> flavor notes 
> to delicate acidic sauces.
> 
> Bread trenchers were an elegant solution. They soaked up the smelly
> bits and 
> made the plates or chargers easier to clean for re-use.
> 
> The same is true today. Try using a bread trencher at your next
> feast. 
> You'll find the clean up afterwards is much easier.
> 
> lo vostre per vos servir
> Meser Lyonel
> _________________________________
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> 
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> 
> 
> >From: "Dora Smith" <villandra at austin.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad <bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org>
> >To: "Barony of Bryn Gwlad" <bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] trenchers and plateware
> >Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:23:26 -0500
> >
> >DISHES went out of style?!!
> >
> >Yours,
> >Dora Smith
> >Austin, TX
> >tiggernut24 at yahoo.com
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tim McDaniel" <tmcd at panix.com>
> >To: "Barony of Bryn Gwlad" <bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:26 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] trenchers and plateware
> >
> >
> > > On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Dora Smith <villandra at austin.rr.com>
> wrote:
> > >> Since the Romans ate from plates and bowls, why would not the
> European
> > >> nobility have done so in medieval times?
> > >
> > > The early Imperial Romans also ate while reclining on couches,
> wore
> > > togas, and based their armies on infantry, all of which went out
> of
> > > style (though infantry as mainstays of the army eventually came
> back
> > > for a time).  That a group of people did something at a given
> time
> > > doesn't mean that their successors did.  In the field of names,
> which
> > > I know something about, I could probably find dozens of Irish
> names
> > > known only early, but that just lost popularity -- or the 12th
> Century
> > > explosion of odd names that just went away in the 13th.
> > >
> > > It's not even true that if a people did something at time A and
> time
> > > B, that they did it at all times in between.  The easiest
> example is
> > > concrete: used extensively in the Roman Empire, lost,
> rediscovered in
> > > the 19th Century.
> > >
> > > DdL
> > > --
> > > Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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