[Bryn-gwlad] trenchers and plateware

Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace sirlyonel at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 6 07:49:33 PDT 2006


Salut cozyns,

I don't think you'll have any trouble documenting pita or tortilla or any 
other sort of unleavened flat breads. They've been around almost as long as 
humans have been grinding grain.

On the other hand, I don't think either one makes an adequate trencher. To 
take Baroness Claire's analogy to its logical conclusion, imagine eating 
brisket from a paper plate. The juices and sauces turn it to paste, your 
knife shreds it.

I suggested foccacio because they tend to be a little thicker, but we've 
used sliced Pagnotta the last couple of times. The one problem with a 
pagnotta or similar peasant bread is that (as Bear's notes suggest) the 
bread is a bit too delicate, so you have to leave the crust on to maintain 
integrity. If you're trying to be more authentic, I think a Russian rye or 
pumpernickle, or just a seedy multi-grain might make a more appropriately 
Medieval substitute.

lo vostre per vos servir
Meser Lyonel
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>From: Robin Craig <robinec at cox.net>
>Reply-To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad <bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org>
>To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad <bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org>
>Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] trenchers and plateware
>Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:46:59 -0500
>
>It seems Naan or Pita bread might be easier to document...
>I found this info on a fairly questionable website:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pita
>
>-Robin
>
>
>On Sep 5, 2006, at 3:42 PM, elizabeth at crouchet.com wrote:
>
> >
> > It's flour and water, made into a dough, spread flat and baked on
> > pan over the fire. Can be baked until hard. What is NOT
> > period about it? I would guess it is more apporpirate than modern
> > focaccia. A flour tortilla is more like period pie dough, which
> > was a holder and not meant to be eaten either.
> >
> > So what did a trencher look like? I remember they were not really
> > meant to be eaten like bread. They were utilitarian and
> > disposable. They were only eaten by the poor and the pigs.
> >
> > Any one have a recipe and instructions for a food trencher or was
> > this so common it didn't need a recipe?
> >
> > Claire
> >
> >
> > On 5 Sep 2006 at 15:19, Tim McDaniel wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, elizabeth at crouchet.com wrote:
> >>> How about a flour tortilla? Acts like a paper plate.
> >>
> >> Do you have any period evidence of them?
> >>
> >> Daniel de Lincoln
> >> --
> >> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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