[Bryn-gwlad] Bryn-gwlad Digest, Vol 16, Issue 45

[Amanda Shields]

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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 08:37:54 -0700 (PDT)
> From: robert segrest <aumbob at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Bryn-gwlad] College Status Report
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> It seems that this might be a good time to let folks
> know more about the status of the college group
> situation.
>
> We have an official UT Student group, we are listed as
> Collegium Turris Animarum.  I am currently listed as
> President, Lord Stiobard is listed as Vice President
> and HL Bridget is listed as Secretary (I think).  We
> theoretically have a couple of other members.
> Currently I am the only undergrad, all of the other
> students are grad students.  We have as many faculty
> and administration folks as students.  (Maybe we
> should be a Faculty group that admits select
> students.)
>
> We are not currently doing anything.  I was focusing
> on getting a fighter practice going.  This appears to
> be next to impossible on campus at this time.  The
> problem is that the accountability for 'weapons'
> requirements are extremely stringent, and yes, what we
> use are definitely considered weapons by campus
> officials.  In the long term, this can probably be
> solved by becoming a reputable campus organization
> with some history and contacts who can finagle some
> exceptions to the rules.  As a very marginal group,
> the people involved have little incentive to go out on
> a limb for us.
>
> We are also working on starting a dance practice.
> There is an existing group of medieval and
> rennaissance dancers who would like to join our group
> en masse in exchange for the ability to use campus
> facilities under our auspices.  They are college
> students who could probably form a group of their own,
> but I think it serves both groups to work together.
> The only snag there is that both myself and the leader
> of that group are a little buried in schoolwork right
> now.  I hope to have that happening before the fall
> semester starts.
>
> As for non-student participation, we do have some
> constraints, and we have some ways around them.  We
> also have some grey areas that can be exploited as
> long as we do not jeapardize our status as a student
> group.  ONLY UT students, faculty and administration
> can be members of the campus group.  Students, faculty
> and administration of other institutions of higher
> learning may participate in UT student group
> activities (i.e. we can have ACC, TSU, Georgetown,
> etc. students and staff participate in our events).
> We can have 'guest speakers' attend our events.
> Having knights and dons instructing at our fighter
> practices would fall under the guest speaker category,
> as would having teachers from the dance guild, or any
> other guild.  The guest speaker thing is a little
> problematic.  I think we need to have a sufficient
> number of non-guest students participating so that we
> do not appear to actually be a local group trying to
> bend the rules to gain access to UT facilities, which
> is exactly what these rules are trying to prevent.
>
> Right now, I am a little overwhelmed by the task of
> getting this thing off the ground.  I have had many
> offers of help from people not affiliated with UT.  I
> am finding it difficult to make use of them.  Most of
> the students in the group are finding if difficult to
> make time to work on the group (myself included).  The
> power structure at UT is not particularly conducive to
> a group like ours, and I am not cutting the red tape
> as effectively as I would like to.  If people have
> suggestions, I would love to hear them.  If people are
> able to help, I will be ecstatic to hear from them.
> If anyone wants to take the ball and run with it on
> organizing a demo or information table early in the
> fall semester, I am willing to sacrifice small
> livestock on their altar.  I would also be quite
> willing to answer any questions about what we are
> doing, would like to do, would like not to do, etc.
>
> Laszlo
>
>
>
> _________________________________________

This is excellent to hear!

Laszlo, Gods know I ain't trying to horn in, and feel free to flame,  
but as the daughter of a lawyer, I have to ask you, how far have you  
seen that you can....massage the rules?

Where manpower is the problem, such as manning a West Mall table,  
what are the rules governing that which MUST be done by UT students/ 
staff, and that which can be done by any nutter willing to show up?  
Instead of putting this all on the few of you, where can you stretch  
your manpower by asking for help from the barony?

My personal experience (fwiw), setting a signup list out there can  
work nicely. If it is OK for a non-student to man a table for a few  
hours, just come out and say, "We are having a West Mall table on  
September 14 between 11:00 and 4:00, here are the open slots and  
times (having secured an actual UT person for setup and takedown),  
who can contribute an hour or so?"

If it takes being UT students/faculty/staff to secure space for  
something (like, oh, say, that yummy ballroom for a feast), does that  
person have to be the legal contact (i.e. steward) of the event, or  
once the room is secured, can anybody steward?

If a UT student/staff/faculty secures space for another purpose (such  
as an embroidery guild), does that UT student have to be physically  
present at all times the door is open, or if they know those  
embroiderers won't Van Halen the place, is it good that they can open  
the door and lock it once the embroiderers are done?

In short, in the activities you want to do, given the limited number  
(at this time) of UT people, where MUST there be a UT person, and  
where CAN you get away with any random Barony person? Know the  
boundaries, obey the boundaries, and communicate the boundaries to  
potential participants.

With that as a given, what is the maximum amount of fun, again as a  
lawyer's daughter I ask, you can get away with?

Sincerely,

Amanda S.
Apple


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