BVC - King's College...

Chuck Graves Chuck.Graves at
Mon Apr 12 14:42:49 PDT 1999

>      3) "Clove gillyflowers" are good, old-fashioned pink carnations.  Be 
>      careful when you go looking for dianthus, also known as "pinks", at 
>      the nurseries.  You don't want to use "pinks"; I've been told they are 
>      not good for your health.  As for a supply of gillyflowers, you have 
>      to wait until they bloom...I have about a dozen plants and the flowers 
>      are just now forming.  8^)
According to the herbalists and botanical people I've consulted, clove gillyflow
s aren't carnations.  Related, but not the same.
If I can't find clove dianthus, I may turn to carnations...
     Check the Oxford English Dictionary.  I believe it lists the 
     gillyflower as Dianthus cariophyllus (?), the pink carnation. Of 
     course, they're devilishly hard to find at the nurseries. I did manage 
     to get a few flowers last year before the accursed Oklahoma summer 
     took over--smelled like a freshly crushed clove. The aroma is much 
     more pronounced than what you get from the floral shops. The larger 
     carnations probably suffer from the same thing as modern 
     roses--cultivated for their looks instead of their scents.
>      4) A beer is good as long as it's still beer. Although it may be urban 
>      legend, I understand the Bass ale they brought up from various 
>      shipwrecks was still quite palatable. My imperial stout gets better 
>      with age. I've had a couple hide for as long as a always 
>      misplace a few things when you move.
Can you keep one for, say, 10 years?
     Good lord, girl. I'm only human!

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