BVC - King's College...
Chuck.Graves at faa.gov
Tue Apr 13 06:55:12 PDT 1999
>Not that you're wrong.... Only because when I thought of that I
>immediately thought of the pink carnations you get in the florists.
So did I.
I asked my knight (brewer, cook, and all-around scholar) what clove
gillyflowers were. He pulled out the Oxford English Dictionary which
gave a 16th-century (I think) citation, and gave the Latin botanical
name for carnations.
I think Clare and I ended up at the same place. It's not the big
fluffy florist's carnations. They are smallish, "pepto bismal pink"
things. I think they are referred to as "doubles", though. It's not
a single, five-petal flower like the "pinks"; they are slightly more
complex (but only slightly), and about the size of a half-dollar.
>If badgered because I have to dig through piles, I can find the catalog
>that sells period gilliflowers and pinks here in the US.. They actually
>have several varieties that are traceable back the the 16th and 17th
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger,
badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger,
badger, badger, badger...8^)
>they have a heavy clove scent. I know, having seen them, that Howard's
>Nursery in Bryn Gwlad sells clove gilliflowers from time to time.
Don't they, though--absolutely glorious. And quite a bit of trouble
tracking down even ONE nursery that carried them (at least, in
Oklahoma). But they did winter very well...and they are spreading.
I'm looking forward to a lot of experimental brewing this spring and
Clare, do the ones you've seen have rather dark, almost blue leaves?
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