BVC - From the Society... (2nd try)

Andrew Smith riga at
Mon Jun 14 10:03:07 PDT 1999

    Greetings Taghd.

I am in contact with an attorney regarding this issue.  I strongly suspect there
will be a modification/clarification coming out soon which will be more to your

For your information, I will be working closely with Master Rurik of Trimaris, who
has accepted the unofficial position of liaison with the brewing community.  You
might consider keeping contact with him.

    Most cordially,

    Andrew Smith
    Duke Andrew of Riga
    Secretary, SCA Inc.

chuck_graves at wrote:

> My apologies, everyone.
> I inadvertently sent my first draft.  TRASH and SEND are too close to each other
> on my toolbar.
> The following is what I meant to send.
> Please consider it instead.
> Sincerely,
> Tadhg
> ********************************************************************************
> Greetings to Mistress Tetchubah.
> Your letter to the Exchequers and Brewers of the Known World was posted
> to our e-mail list last week.
> To say the very least, I am disappointed in its content.  Not so much
> for the notification regarding materials for the manufacture of
> alcohol.  Rather, I am concerned with the apparent move by the BoD to
> restrict the free flow of information within the Society.
> Frankly, when the BoD notified us last year that we could no longer
> purchase alcohol for immediate consumption at SCA events, I was
> relieved.  The move to include basic materials for the same is no
> surprise.  It simply closes a loophole in the previous policy.
> My chief concern is with the following:
>      >Further discussion with Andrew also revealed that local brewer's
>      >newsletters are putting us in insurance peril if they focus on
>      >redacting recipes or publishing new recipes developed by members of
>      >the guild.
> This is nothing short of censorship.  Personally, I cannot comprehend
> how content in ANY such newsletter could imperil our insurance status.
> If we were to wander too far afield, I can see it impinging on our
> nonprofit status.  Printing our favorite modern recipes without regard
> for our medieval focus could be damning.  However, the brewing
> newsletters I have seen are produced with an eye to medieval research.
> While it may seem trite, we are attempting to re-create medieval
> works. Redaction is an implicit element in brewing as much as cooking.
> The intent of our work is accurate and SAFE reconstruction.  I am more
> concerned about NOT disseminating information in these areas.
> I am very worried with where the latest policy statement is taking us.
> You noted that:
>      >they [funds raised for brewing guilds] may be used for other
>      >purposes such as subsidizing a local event or feast, or a brewer's
>      >newsletter as long as the focus of that newsletter is educational
>      >and/or scholarly research of alcohol in period use.  Recipes are
>      >acceptable as long as they are period recipes. In other words, "This
>      >is what they actually did ..." as opposed to "Here's a great recipe
>      >you should try."
> Again, this amounts to censorship.  SCA-sponsored censorship.  The very
> concept sickens me.  Personally, I cannot see how you could hope to
> enforce it without violating the constitutional freedom of SCA members.
> I presume that the basis for this policy is the broadened interpretation
> of "manufacture".  I am concerned that the next step would be to broaden
> the interpretation of "serve" or "distribute".  Please consider the
> following questions:
>   When is the SCA serving or distributing?
>      A mead with the feast?
>      Mead in the feast hall?
>      Mead in an individual's encampment?
>   What offices carry official SCA sanction (and imply SCA liability)?
>      The King?
>      A Peer of the Realm?
>      A landed Baron?
>      A local officer?
>      An official member?
>   When can we differentiate the individual from the office?  And how?
>      King Omar in His Court?
>      King Omar at His Table to feast?
>      Omar in his camp?
>      Omar after he steps down?
> I do not mean to be difficult.  I am simply searching for answers.  The
> concerns raised by the latest announcement are quite grave.
>      >The raising of future funds by the brewer's guilds should not be
>      >encouraged.  Any fund raising must be done as individuals for
>      >individuals by individuals.  The SCA will not be involved in any
>      >fundraising for the brewer's guild, either directly or indirectly.
> This is simply going TOO FAR.  From what I gather, a policy has been
> established by the BoD regarding alcohol to the effect of:
>      The SCA may NOT manufacture, distribute, sell, serve, or furnish
>      alcoholic beverages for immediate consumption at ANY SCA-sponsored
>      event.  This includes any commercial and homemade beverages, and
>      supplies and materials for the production of homemade beverages.
>      The sole exception being those materials incidental to cooking.
> I should think that policy would be sufficient to satisfy any insurance
> issues.
> To my way of thinking, your notice to the general public carries grievous
> implications:
>      Restricting reconstruction or re-creation of medieval works;
>      Restricting dissemination of information regarding those works;
>      Restricting intellectual endeavors of a small segment of the SCA.
> Our works are not criminal and I cannot see how they imperil the Society.
> Please consider what I have said.  If I am in error, correct me.  If I
> have overlooked something, enlighten me.
> One last question.  How does this policy effect brewing classes taught to
> the general populace at SCA events?  What about Colleges, Universities,
> Collegia, etc.?
> I look forward to you reply.
> Sincerely,
> Ld. Tadhg macAedain uiChonchobhair
> Barony of Namron, Kingdom of Ansteorra
>      M

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