CR - Prerequisites To Principality
Paul Mitchell
pmitchel at flash.net
Fri Jan 30 08:24:02 PST 1998
Galen again...
Lee Martindale wrote:
>
> Galen wrote:
>
> > But when I opposed the principality issue, I described what
> > would be required to get my support -- which has now happened.
> > What would the world look like before you'd support upgrading
> > our region to principality status? Assuming you'd agree that
> > having Ansteorra organize into a principality wasn't a mistake,
> > what made that OK?
>
> Fair questions that go to the meat of the matter, which is
> why I've split them out into a separate thread.
Fair enough. But you didn't answer the second question...
> Before I could consider supporting the idea of a principality,
> I would need to see the cart and horse in proper practical
> order. Show me solid evidence of the benefits being
> claimed and minimal presence of the detrimental effects
> I envision. Actual, not theoretically, right here in
> Central Region, over a reaonable amount of time. Show me
> some success toward the original goals of the original
> discussion on regional cooperation and coordination.
>
> Breaking it down further:
>
> 1) A "project period" of between one and two years, with
> the "project" being the facilitation of regional identity
> and the aforementioned cooperation and coordination.
Possible, but this is harder to do in a regional framework.
That "regional identity" this has practical aspects, as well
as symbolic ones, like a name and a coat of arms. Regions
can't have these, says the Star Principal Herald.
> 2) Give the "project" a fair chance to stand or fail on
> its own merits. Promote the regional goals for all
> they're worth, but don't muddy the waters with promotion
> of principality.
Again, I am highly dubious that the regional goals can
be accomplished by a region, in the long term. The
incentives and rewards for people taking this on aren't
there. That's why I want a principality in the first
place.
> 3) Prove that local chapters can work together by *doing*
> it. Establish that Regional Council that was mentioned,
> put together two or more cooperative, regional events to
> show it can be done and how well it works. Go for broke
> and make one of them a Kingdom-level event.
You mean kingdom-sponsored? Like a Crown Tourney? Easily
done. Or do you mean an event that the whole Kingdom comes
to, like a Steppes 12th Night? I have an idea for that,
too.
> 4) Track and report the effect of the "project" on all
> local groups in the region.
Fair enough. But while I can collect stats on population
and officer turnover in the local groups over the project
period, I'm not sure I can do more than claim that the
improvements are due to the project.
> 5) Track and report the effect of the "project" on
> membership and participation as a whole.
Ibid.
> Don't just tell me it will work - show me. Give me
> the evidence of success with the "project" and, in
> doing so, give me solid reasons to change my mind.
>
> Fair enough?
Quite fair, my objections above notwithstanding. So,
wanna be on the Regional Council? I'm willing to
take this on for, say 18 months. Are you? We'd
need a sceptic.
> --
> Lee Martindale / Llereth Wyddffa an Myrddin / The Copper Bard
> email: lmartin at airmail.net
> http://web2.airmail.net/lmartin
Wow, we must be really good to carry on such a dispute for so
long without anybody devolving into name-calling or motive-
questioning! I'll claim this as evidence that we _can_ work
together.
- Galen
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