[DFT] Re: [Elfsea] Comments on comments

Donna Wallis mama_mac at airmail.net
Mon Jul 7 08:08:22 PDT 2003

I think everyone needs a little more information........
Loch Ruadh has no plans to become a Shire tomorrow!!  This does not make
us a "new group" just a change in status. This is not something out of
the blue. It has been talked about with the Seneschal's and B&B's of the
Barony for at least the past 5 years.

The members of the Canton would like to have their status elevated to
Shire at Lughnasad 2004. We will have been a learning and growing Canton
for many years. The 2004 date was selected because it would be close to
the 10th anniversary for our group becoming a full status Canton
(remember we were an Incipient Canton for 2 years). Elfsea was elevated
to Baronial status in the 10th year of them becoming a Shire.

If anyone is interested in discussing the proposed change of status that
the members of Loch Ruadh are going to request please contact me. I am
more than willing to impart my knowledge on the subject  :)
I will be attending Elfsea's business meeting and Moot.

Soon to be Seneschal of the Canton of Loch Ruadh
Loch Ruadh REALLY  ROCKS!!!

P.S. It would be helpful to cc the Loch Ruadh and Dragonsfire Tor's
mailing lists with these discussions because not everyone receives the
Elfsea list.

Louis le Blaireau wrote:

Might I suggest that the new B&B negotiate with Loch Ruadh short
transitional time. Whilst I recognize that the canton has been doing
shire-level work for years and much deserves their desires, Elfsea needs
Loch Ruadh now. If the barony were given a chance to increase it's
membership in it's core zip codes, then a split would be less painful
for Elfsea. This I pray to the generous souls of Loch Ruadh.

Louis le Blaireau

Richard Threlkeld wrote:
> Your Grace, you may have misread my intent. Though I personally do not
> see that they benefit from severing their current relationship with
> Elfsea, I would not stand in their way if we can agree on a mutually
> beneficial way to do it. They are a strong group with all the key
> factors we look for in a new group. In fact, Elfsea can learn from
> And we would still have a relationship with the new group and with its
> people, it would just be a different relationship. Perhaps, like our
> Elfsteppers, we would have Rochsteppers or RuadhElfers?
> And whether or not Pyro and I am made B&B, I will gladly join you in
> trying to vitalize our College of Three Bridges.
> In service,
> Caelin on Andrede
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: elfsea-bounces at ansteorra.org
>>[mailto:elfsea-bounces at ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of willow Taylor
>>Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 4:49 PM
>>To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
>>Subject: [Elfsea] Comments on comments
>>This is a non-hat race comment from Willow de Wisp
>>> >1. What do you intend to do about the Canton of Loch Ruadh
>>>their move to become a Shire? This will significantly impact the
>>>Barony over
>>>the next two years.
>>> I don't believe they would benefit by becoming a Shire, but
>>I would ague about this. IF Loch Ruadh wants to be a shire
>>then they should be allowed to do so. I have made the mistake
>>of keeping people when they wanted to do their own thing.
>>Everytime it turned out bad, very bad. Loch Ruadh has
>>developed it own self image and needs to grow a while as a
>>independent unit. I know this would be hard on Elfsea because
>>Loch Ruadh have done a lot in the Barony. Also if they are
>>working on being a Barony themselves they may pull people to
>>them. This could be a challenge to Elfsea, but I think we can
>>handle it. There are enough people out there to fill two Baronies.
>>> >2. What do you intend to do about supporting the College of
>>>ThreeBridges? They may go dormant this year due to lack of
>>>How do you intend to help keep their SCA-UTA group going?
>>> There are several of us who are either current students
>>I will be a graduate student at UTA this fall. I would be
>>willing to help
>>the Canton. I can not be an officer untill I get my money in
>>the fall but
>>then I would be willing to do one of the jobs. As a old time
>>recruter and
>>organizer I belive UTA hasn't really been tapped. I am sure
>>with a little
>>effort we can get some people. We will need the Barony support.

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