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Donald Riney dariusobells at
Wed May 27 09:02:50 PDT 1998

Phillip has recently volunteered to teach a class on presedence, 
perhaps, you can help him with that Jeanmaire? I grilled him prettty 
hard on it and he Knows the basic presedence realy well.
In service Darius of the bells

>Jeanmaire here, again.  Hope you all aren't bored with me yet.
>Viscountess Kate wrote:
>>I am having a hard time knowing who is a pel or a laural. Knights are
>>kind of obvioux but if they are pel's or laurals they're not.  I would
>>appreciate your in put please.  V.Kate
>This is exactly what I was talking about with teaching a class on how 
>recognize peers of various sorts.  People aren't being intentionally
>discourteous - in many cases they just don't know.  Thanks, Kate, for 
>the courage to ask.
>Knights, of course, have their three marks of regalia:  chain, white 
>and spurs.  In some kingdoms there are conventions about gold chains, 
>&/or rowels (the little round things that stick out from the spurs) for
>knights and silver chains, silver spurs, and silver rowels, or no 
rowels for
>squires.  I get that stuff confused, and most knights don't wear spurs 
>often, anyway.  So look for a white belt and a chain.  A white baldric
>denotes a Master of the Chivalry.  Male Laurels and Pelicans are also 
>Masters, which can sometimes be confusing, but, what the hey, we're all
>peers.  Female Laurels and Pelicans are called Mistress.  Unfortunately 
>regalia for the Laurels and Pelicans consists only of a medallion.  
>many awards confer a medallion, the peerage medallions can be hard to 
>Also, if a Pelican is doing dirty work, which they often do, they may 
>even be wearing their medallion.
>The Laurel medallion is a green laurel wreath on a gold field.  The 
>medallion is a picture of the pelican piercing its own breast with its 
>in order to feed it's starving children on the blood.  (OK, a bit 
>but appropriately medieval, and completely authentic.)  While the 
>to my knowledge, seldom if ever wear anything besides the medallion,
>Laurels, as the Arts & Sciences types, have become inventive about 
>off..... ah..... being flashy..... ah......  whatever, over the years.  
>have seen Laurel medallions made from almost every medium imaginable - 
>silver, enamel, amber, real emeralds, other green gems, like 
>cross-stitch and other embroidery - I have one that Darius made for me
>carved out of horn.  Also, Laurels tend to wear laurel wreaths on 
>buttons, trims, and wherever else they can find to put one.  I have a 
>of laurel wreath earrings, which most everyone in the Barony has seen 
>now.  Most noticeable, though, is the Laurel Wreath crown, which is 
simply a
>coronet, usually in gold (or gold colored metal) made of laurel leaves.  
>person who is being Laureled that day is often provided with a wreath 
>fresh laurel leaves, and will wear a cloak with laurel wreath(s) 
>or appliqued or woven on.  See what I mean about inventive?
>This info, by the way, is off the top of my head.  For more detail, 
>out the SCA web site, or try a copy of the Known World Handbook, which 
>lots & lots of this sort of stuff, plus the arms of all the Kingdoms &
>everything else you might want to know.  We have owned about 5 copies 
>the years, and they keep disappearing because we lend them out & they 
>come back.  Think of it as our contribution to newbies.
>I hope this answers your question.  If you need more info, or if I've
>confused you, feel free to post again.
>In service,
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