ES - Courtesy & Other Things

windell gibson draeco at
Thu May 28 00:48:41 PDT 1998

margiejr wrote:
> The lack of Curtesy I have seen has mostly come from a lack of Knowledge by
> those commiting the offences. new commers who have not been taught proper
> cutrtesy when they started to play. Play a few years and bring new comers,
> with out having the Knowledge to pass down to the next generation of
> newcommers.
> This is a growing problem not only in Elfsea but in other areas. My
> sugestion is instead of complaining about the problem. Take action to over
> come the problem.
> possible suggestions are:
> inform newcommers of the curtesies of the Socity before you bring them.
> Be the best example of Curtesy you can be. (Some days your bets will be
> calling everyone by thier titles while another may be to call out hey so and
> so)
> Have a class on Sca Protical.
> Write a booklet on Curtesies and coustoms for the newcomers
> Work closely with newcommers just starting and those who have been playing a
> while w/o the Guidence of more experianced players
> Just My 2 cents
> Lady Simone
> --
> Afan Wrote:
>     I would like to add comments on another note of courtesy
> however. Since I have been playing (again) I have noticed that the
> courtesy on the whole is not what it used to be (5 years ago, when I
> began). At both Elfsea Defender, and Elfsea Springfaire I got to site
> before my lord, and set up camp by myself. On both occasions there
> were men (healthy full grown men) standing around watching me, who
> never  offered to help me. (At Defender they did finally offer
> when I went to set up the walls of my tent.) This weekend, there were
> several times when I was walking from camp to the list field with
> my arms full of HEAVY things, no one offered to come to my
> aid, and when we were setting up camp (next to the vigil) on Friday
> night, there were several Knights who stood and watched myself and
> another lady unloading our vehicles, without the offer of aid. How
> are newcomers supposed to learn these things if not by example?
> As for asking for help, it seems to me that since chivalry,(the
> respect and courtesy with which we are supposed to treat one another)
> is one of the main building blocks, which the Society has been
> created upon, no one should have to ask. Maybe that is taking a bit
> of a hard stand, but then again my belief is that most of us are big
> boys and girls and shouldn't have to be reminded like children. If
> those of us who have been around a while, will teach by example, then
> newer people will learn, and will understand much better, than being
> told "Do as I say, not as I (or a good portion of the people) do."
> *stepping off my soapbox, yet once again*
>      ~Afan~
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I think you have the right idea.  I would be more than willing to write
a courtesy pamflet ( I have spell check just not on line).  I am a
writer by profession.  I would be interested in teaching a class.  To
the Dream, V.Kate
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