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Donald Riney dariusobells at hotmail.com
Wed May 27 09:02:50 PDT 1998


Phillip has recently volunteered to teach a class on presedence, 
perhaps, you can help him with that Jeanmaire? I grilled him prettty 
hard on it and he Knows the basic presedence realy well.
In service Darius of the bells


>Jeanmaire here, again.  Hope you all aren't bored with me yet.
>
>Viscountess Kate wrote:
>>>
>>I am having a hard time knowing who is a pel or a laural. Knights are
>>kind of obvioux but if they are pel's or laurals they're not.  I would
>>appreciate your in put please.  V.Kate
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>
>
>This is exactly what I was talking about with teaching a class on how 
to
>recognize peers of various sorts.  People aren't being intentionally
>discourteous - in many cases they just don't know.  Thanks, Kate, for 
having
>the courage to ask.
>
>Knights, of course, have their three marks of regalia:  chain, white 
belt,
>and spurs.  In some kingdoms there are conventions about gold chains, 
spurs,
>&/or rowels (the little round things that stick out from the spurs) for
>knights and silver chains, silver spurs, and silver rowels, or no 
rowels for
>squires.  I get that stuff confused, and most knights don't wear spurs 
very
>often, anyway.  So look for a white belt and a chain.  A white baldric
>denotes a Master of the Chivalry.  Male Laurels and Pelicans are also 
called
>Masters, which can sometimes be confusing, but, what the hey, we're all
>peers.  Female Laurels and Pelicans are called Mistress.  Unfortunately 
the
>regalia for the Laurels and Pelicans consists only of a medallion.  
Since
>many awards confer a medallion, the peerage medallions can be hard to 
spot.
>Also, if a Pelican is doing dirty work, which they often do, they may 
not
>even be wearing their medallion.
>
>The Laurel medallion is a green laurel wreath on a gold field.  The 
pelican
>medallion is a picture of the pelican piercing its own breast with its 
beak,
>in order to feed it's starving children on the blood.  (OK, a bit 
gruesome,
>but appropriately medieval, and completely authentic.)  While the 
Pelicans,
>to my knowledge, seldom if ever wear anything besides the medallion,
>Laurels, as the Arts & Sciences types, have become inventive about 
showing
>off..... ah..... being flashy..... ah......  whatever, over the years.  
I
>have seen Laurel medallions made from almost every medium imaginable - 
gold,
>silver, enamel, amber, real emeralds, other green gems, like 
tourmaline,
>cross-stitch and other embroidery - I have one that Darius made for me
>carved out of horn.  Also, Laurels tend to wear laurel wreaths on 
pouches,
>buttons, trims, and wherever else they can find to put one.  I have a 
pair
>of laurel wreath earrings, which most everyone in the Barony has seen 
by
>now.  Most noticeable, though, is the Laurel Wreath crown, which is 
simply a
>coronet, usually in gold (or gold colored metal) made of laurel leaves.  
A
>person who is being Laureled that day is often provided with a wreath 
of
>fresh laurel leaves, and will wear a cloak with laurel wreath(s) 
embroidered
>or appliqued or woven on.  See what I mean about inventive?
>
>This info, by the way, is off the top of my head.  For more detail, 
check
>out the SCA web site, or try a copy of the Known World Handbook, which 
has
>lots & lots of this sort of stuff, plus the arms of all the Kingdoms &
>everything else you might want to know.  We have owned about 5 copies 
over
>the years, and they keep disappearing because we lend them out & they 
don't
>come back.  Think of it as our contribution to newbies.
>
>I hope this answers your question.  If you need more info, or if I've
>confused you, feel free to post again.
>
>In service,
>Jeanmaire
>
>
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