ES - Elfsea Defender

Kelly Erickson elinthetimid at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 3 10:27:39 PDT 1999


I believe it is a question of what is 'a reasonable attempt'. And this 
probably does vary by how long a person has been in the SCA, and involved in 
a particular activity.
Elin


>From: Amy & Bill Morris <awmorris at flash.net>
>Reply-To: elfsea at Ansteorra.ORG
>To: elfsea at Ansteorra.ORG
>Subject: Re: ES - Elfsea Defender
>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 11:00:16 -0500
>
>SCA law and custom state that anyone who ATTEMPTS to maintain a
>period appearance is welcome in the SCA.  So newbies, or poor college
>students who make a reasonable attempt given their experience and budget
>are always welcome.  And this has always been tempered by common sense
>regarding eyeglasses baby stuff, etc.
>    Kingdom law states that nothing blatantly modern may be displayed
>without crown or autocrat permission.  This has never been enforced as
>written, exceptions have always been made for tents, baby stuff,
>toilets, handicapped equipment, etc.  Permission is assumed, even if
>never given.  If enforced as written this would conflict with the SCA
>and would have to be removed from kingdom law.
>    Could someone more familiar with SCA policies check this, it would
>seem possible that as a branch, we can not deny participation to anyone
>making a reasonable attempt to appear period.  I have seen similar
>things done but always by a household.
>
>
>mblareau wrote:
> >
> > THANK YOU "we lose sight that this is just for fun and not everyone can
> > afford 500$ boots.
> >
> > Robert Singleton wrote:
> > >
> > > "Marsh, Todd W." wrote:
> > >
> > > > The SCA has always had a rule that everyone must make "some attempt 
>at
> > > > period clothing" to attend an event.
> > > >
> > > > Please help spread the word that this rule will be enforced at 
>Elfsea
> > > > Defender on the list field.  This means that people wearing 
>excessively
> > > > mundane clothes or SHOES will not be allowed to enter the 
>tournaments.
> > > >
> > > > Any questions?
> > >
> > > A couple of questions, actually...
> > >
> > > Obviously, T-shirt, jeans and Reboks would be right out, no argument.
> > >
> > > The grey areas would be of more concern. How would "excessively 
>mundane"
> > > clothes or shoes be defined and by whom? Will newcomers be held to a
> > > different standard than veterans? How about veteran players who are
> > > newbie fighters? When does a newbie lose newbie status? What if two
> > > fighters are wearing the same or very similar boots but one is denied 
>a
> > > tournament and the other gets to play? I know that if I were not 
>allowed
> > > to fight due to such a rule, I would be taking a very careful 
>inventory
> > > of EVERY fighter's gear. I don't feel that is the spirit of what we 
>are
> > > doing here.
> > >
> > > I agree that everyone, including myself, needs to take steps to
> > > eliminate as much mundanity as possible, however, I now feel a little
> > > nervous about a planned purchase of new boots to fight in. What if 
>they
> > > (for example) are deemed inappropriate for what will likely be the 
>first
> > > actual tourney I have fought in? Not a nice first tourney experience.
> > >
> > > Lord Robert of Slugglen
> > >
> > > --
> > > -------------------------
> > >
> > > Robert Singleton
> > >
> > > Robert of Slugglen
> > > House Mac An Ghabhann
> > > Canton of Loch Ruadh
> > > Kingdom of Ansteorra
> > > Planet Earth
> > > The Sol System
> > > The Milky Way
> > > Universe Unspecified
> > >
> > > -------------------------
> > >
> > > People need to give Bill Clinton a little slack. He is doing the work 
>of
> > > three men:
> > > Larry, Curly, and Moe.
> > >
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